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Politics of Denunciation
Will Soon Have To Stop
Even If Moore Is Doomed
NY Sun ^
| Nov.14 2017
| Conrad Black
Posted on 11/15/2017 9:35:30 AM PST by Para-Ord.45
At some point, this practice of denunciation being insuperable and due process just an irritant and a useless antiquity, like an appendix as it has been in the Weinstein and Moore cases will have to stop, if the United States wishes to retain any credibility as a society of laws. It is hard not to look upon the Roy Moore imbroglio as another well-timed hit-job from a familiar and well-practiced source the same people who thought they had destroyed the Trump campaign ...
(Excerpt) Read more at nysun.com ...
TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: alabama; attackfail; conradblack; mooreproblems; notdoomed; roymoore
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To: Max Tactical
Oh please. Save us from your self-righteous bullshit.
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posted on
11/15/2017 8:22:33 PM PST
by
Twink
To: Albion Wilde
To: Reynoldo
My give a damn was busted years ago, around the time Clinton had sex with Lewinsky in the Oval Office and the Media didn’t care.
Everything the Media promotes is negative for our Country.
Entertainment, Schools, etc. all promote LGTB whatever other letters, everything goes when it comes to sex,etc. but we’re supposed to be shocked by what Moore may have done some 40 years ago? We’re supposed to believe these women because they’re women? Because he’s a republican? Ted Kennedy let a woman die yet he was elected for decades. The entire Kennedy family, including the “honored” JFK, are a bunch of scum. The “honored” Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. is also scum but he’s celebrated, too. Clinton is scum yet his wife was still elected as a NY Senator and appointed Secretary of State and almost became POTUS. Hell, our last POTUS was Obama. These are people who should have been or should be in prison and not people who are our government officials and celebrated in our Institutions.
The “newest” trend is sexual harassment/assault. And the “victims” are immediately believed without any evidence and the accused are convicted without due process. Same goes with the “bullying” agenda.
I raised four daughters and it was hard but I’m happy I didn’t have to raise boys because THAT would be so much harder.
What if Moore’s accusers are not fabricating? I don’t give a damn. Just like I don’t give a damn about BLM and their agenda, or man made climate change, or anything else that’s an “issue” now. The Duke LAX case also damns the rape culture on campus crap that was a trend when three young lives were almost ruined because of that and I will never forget it.
So Moore’s accusers are now middle aged women and speak up? Pfft.
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posted on
11/15/2017 9:05:28 PM PST
by
Twink
To: Para-Ord.45
Read this:
ITS A FAKE!
Analyst Says Judge Roy Moore Signature Inside Gloria Allred Accusers Yearbook Was FORGED
The sevens in 1977 to the right of Christmas, are very different from the sevens in the date (12-22-77) above Old Hickory House.
Look at the two versions of the number 7, tweeted Wictor.
12-22-77 and Olde Hickory House were written by a different person, he added.
Next, [Thomas] Wictor points out the R and y in Roy, are not written the same way.
The inflection of the Y is more pronounced in Moore signature as Chief Justice. The R is noticeably longer in the signature of Chief Justice, as well.
During his legal career, Judge Moore became the first full-time Deputy District Attorney in Etowah County, Alabama, and served in this position from 1977 until 1982. In 1984, Judge Moore undertook private practice of law in Gadsden, Alabama, states Moores bio on his campaign website.
The accuser to this day calls him the District Attorney. He was NEVER District attorney. He was DEPUTY DA. DDA, says Wictor. ... "
Check out this little fact from
TheCipher Interesting revelation about the signature in the yearbook and where it probably came from.
Turns out Moore was the judge who ruled against Nelson in her divorce case and the signature is exactly how it was on his ruling - explains the D.A. ( which Nelson has ).
Nelson also said she never had contact with him since the "incident"and failed to mention he was the judge in her divorce case.Roy Moore Attorney Demands Gloria Allred Release Original Yearbook, Contends its a Fraud
" ... "D.A." (District Attorney) initials after Moores signature, was recognized by Moore as the initials that his then-assistant, Deborah Adams , used to sign documents. ... "
From
"TigerClaws" :
" ... But (exhibit 2) click on the image in the link.
You can clearly see two different color ink pens were used.
https://mobile.twitter.com/CNN/status/930205088299257859
Here's that image and a link to its ORIGINAL source :
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posted on
11/15/2017 9:07:22 PM PST
by
Yosemitest
(It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
To: Para-Ord.45
Here's an excerpt from Rush Limbaugh's Radio Show:
The Swamp Demands Conformity
Nov 15, 2017
...
RUSH: Heres Mark in Port Townsend wheres Port Townsend ?
Port Townsend what?
CALLER: Thats a little bit west of Seattle.
RUSH: In Washington.
Okay. Great to have you with us.
How you doing, sir ?
CALLER: Im doing great, sir.
I hope youre doing well yourself.
RUSH: I am under siege today, Mark.
Im under siege.
The Drive-By Media is after me because I dared to point out that Roy Moore used to be a Democrat.
CALLER: Thats why you get paid the big bucks.
Im envious of you.
RUSH: (laughing).
CALLER: So the comment I wanted to make was that as a retired law enforcement officer, Jeff Sessions Im speaking as a retired law enforcement officer
Jeff Sessions says he doesnt see any reason to doubt these girls word.
Well, I see a really good reason.
None of these girls have been put under oath and made a sworn statement under penalty of perjury.
And Gloria Allred should be able to tell you that is the first thing you do when you get a client,
you depose them and you get their statement on the record,
and then you go from there.
And if theyre not willing to make a sworn statement, that sounds really fishy to me.
RUSH: I take it you dont believe the women
or you just dont have enough information yet to make a determination ?
CALLER: You dont have enough information to make a determination,
but speaking as an ex-cop, I find it fishy that nobody has made a sworn statement.
And about that yearbook thing,you know, when I was in uniform at a certain time of year
youd get kids walking up to you all the time wanting you to sign their yearbook.Hey, Officer Mark, sign my yearbook.
And I was only a cop.
Can you imagine how politicians get kids wanting doesnt mean you remember all of them.
RUSH: Hang on.
On the yearbook stuff, folks, for those of you who may not be up to speed on this and I doubt there are very many of you
there are allegations that some of these autographs in yearbooks are forged.
There are conservative blog sites claiming to have evidence by virtue of side-by-side comparison
that somebody other than Judge Moore signed some of these things.
This is the first Ive mentioned that.
Im just reacting to you bringing up the yearbooks.
Youre upset with Jeff Sessions.
Hes the attorney general, and he is going ahead and acknowledging thathe believes witnesses before anybodys been put under oath,
and you think thats a little unprofessional, right ?
CALLER: It sounds to me like hes just trying to tread carefully.
RUSH: Well, look, this is politics.
It has its own court, and its not a court of law.
CALLER: But these girls are making public statements
RUSH: They are women.
They are women.
CALLER: Okay, theyre making public statements impugning somebodys honor.
And somebody with responsibility needs to explain to them,if youre gonna besmirch somebody, you gotta put it on the record.
RUSH: No, you dont.
Only in court.
And this is not in court.
This is in politics.
CALLER: I understand its politics,
but Gloria Allred should know what the law is.
RUSH: Im sure she does.
Thats why shes not in court and is instead on TV.
CALLER: I just want to make that point, Rush.
Thank you.
RUSH: Im glad you called, Mark.
Folks, I have to tell you,Im having a little fun with this.
No, dont misunderstand here,
but hes exactly right, but of course that doesnt theres a whole different inertia and movement now that is taking place in the world of politics,
and there is no room for doubt.
I mean,the guy did it, you dont disbelieve the women.
I mean, thats something you must subscribe to now.The women dont lie,except if youre Juanita Broaddrick,
then of course
thats the point.
BREAK TRANSCRIPT
RUSH: I was having fun with the caller and his obvious consternationby confusing what happens in politics with what happens in the law,which is ironic,
because the laws are written by these people.
But what happens thereapparently the law doesnt matter first and foremost.
Find it funny.
BREAK TRANSCRIPT
RUSH: Steve in Rochester, Minnesota.
Great to have you with us, sir.
How are you ?
CALLER: Hey, good.
Thanks, Rush. Dittos.
Ive been listening since 1991.
So I was reading through a Fox News story on the various senators,Republican senators and their comments about this whole situation,
and I read read em one after another; there were many.
And I was thinking as I got most of the way through it,this sounds a lot like your media montages, vis-a-vis gravitas,
that I often hear on your show.
The similarities were striking in what they said.
And it was an observation that led me to think thatthis is really a coordinated attack.
And I think that should be the focus, not the he said, she said,
but the fact thatthis guys being attacked by the establishment, big time.
RUSH: Let me put it to you another way in the form of a question.
Interesting observation, by the way, that you,in reading and listening to all of the different people opposing Judge Moore,
theyre all saying the same thing, is that your point ?
Just like when Cheney was mentioned as the potential vice presidential nominee for George W. Bush,
about 85 media people all said,Thats gravitas.
This is to provide gravitas.
They all had that word.
You think the same things happening here with the response to Judge Moore ?
CALLER: Yes.
Exactly.
RUSH: Okay.
So do you think let me just ask you point-blank
do you think that, whether he did it or not, ,b>hes being railroaded ?
CALLER: Yes.
RUSH: Interesting.
CALLER: Yep. I think this is a coordinated attack,
and what spurred me to think thiswas your comments yesterday about Mitch McConnell attacking Bannons choice.
And I thoughthow else could you do this ?
Here we are a month away from the election.
RUSH: Let me tell you something.
I dont think theres any doubt here.
When Bannon went public and said thatJudge Moore was the first of many candidates theyre gonna support
in order to oust the Republican leadership,
I dont think theres any question here that McConnells reacting to that.
Let me just ask you this.Have any of you ever,
do you ever remember Mitch McConnell or the Republican leadership ever going after a Democrat
the way theyre going after (interruption)
You dont remember.
You dont remember McConnell ever going after a Democrat the way theyre going after
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posted on
11/15/2017 9:07:36 PM PST
by
Yosemitest
(It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
To: RKBA Democrat
66
posted on
11/15/2017 9:08:16 PM PST
by
Twink
To: upchuck
67
posted on
11/15/2017 9:10:46 PM PST
by
Twink
To: Lurkinanloomin
Chilling description, but it rings true and is well said. But I an optimistic despite the dire straits.
68
posted on
11/16/2017 2:30:20 AM PST
by
poconopundit
(SHOE REPAIR SHOP: "We will heel you. We will save your sole. We will even dye for you")
To: Para-Ord.45
I’m not versed in the law, but this sounds like a good antidote.
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posted on
11/16/2017 3:03:08 AM PST
by
poconopundit
(SHOE REPAIR SHOP: "We will heel you. We will save your sole. We will even dye for you")
To: Crucial
That’s the Crucial point — so true! Keep fighting!
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posted on
11/16/2017 3:09:08 AM PST
by
poconopundit
(SHOE REPAIR SHOP: "We will heel you. We will save your sole. We will even dye for you")
To: 2banana
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posted on
11/16/2017 5:04:23 AM PST
by
Biggirl
("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
To: iontheball
I was afraid this would happen when the Soviet Union collapsed.
The siren call of ‘free everything’ is very enticing..................
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posted on
11/16/2017 6:30:22 AM PST
by
Red Badger
(Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
To: Albion Wilde
The author's points all seem reasoned and reasonable, but the fact remains that it wouldn't have been published if it didn't help the DNC narrative that pervades the irreparably partisan media. First a CYA, then back to a wall of silence, that'll be the ticket.
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posted on
11/16/2017 7:35:23 AM PST
by
SunkenCiv
(www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
To: Para-Ord.45
...and the fact that the alleged incident is violently denied by the former chief justice of the state, occurred 38 years ago, did not involve any direct physical grope or probe, was not reported to law authorities (and was not necessarily illegal if it happened at all and certainly is not actionable now) and was given instead to the trusty first battery of reliable Democratic artillery in the press. Let's assume 40 years from now 'the press' is anti-gay and politicians use 'pro-gay' comments from now to trash a political candidate... There's reason a nation build on laws also has a statue of limitations ...
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posted on
11/16/2017 11:21:31 AM PST
by
GOPJ
(https://www.reddit.com/r/StumpSheet/comments/6ec3z1/fake_hate_crimes_official/)
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To: Albion Wilde
Keep me on the list. Thanks.
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posted on
11/17/2017 5:05:07 AM PST
by
tillacum
(I'm still a Deplorable and I COLLUDED during the election SO THE DONALD could WIN! I voted.)
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