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If "saving lives" is the primary goal, why doesn't NY ban the sale of cigarettes entirely?
1 posted on 11/12/2017 8:27:55 AM PST by oh8eleven
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To: oh8eleven

Bingo.


2 posted on 11/12/2017 8:32:25 AM PST by tflabo
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I know you’re being sarcastic....let me add some color....government is probably the best example of “hypocrisy” outside of Hollywierd. They want you to “quit” smoking, but need the taxes so subsidize the tobacco industry farmers from time to time and charge a fortune in taxes on the products. They want you not to “gamble” illegally, but want you to play the lotto. 100 years ago they wanted you to stop drinking alcohol, but probably the largest portion of cost on a bottle of booze are all the taxes charged on them. It goes on and on. People are economic beings; where ever the price of a product can be purchased for less (including taxes paid on those products) you have a market. Thank the Lord there isn’t enough policing agents (ATF was created for that reason at the Federal level) to enforce the madness.....for now.


3 posted on 11/12/2017 8:35:17 AM PST by john drake (Lucius Accius-Roman,170 BC - "oderint dum metuant" translated "Let them hate so long as they fear")
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They are the highest taxed, so....


4 posted on 11/12/2017 8:37:07 AM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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When driving into Illinois from Kentucky, you’ll see road signs telling you that ‘smuggling’ untaxed cigarets is a crime. I’m sure that lots of vans going north to Chicago are full of them.


5 posted on 11/12/2017 8:37:28 AM PST by hanamizu
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Bloomturd created a new income for organized crime.


6 posted on 11/12/2017 8:42:00 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Trump: Greatest POTUS of all time solely for preventing Satan from taking office.)
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The state did NOT “lose 1.63 billion dollars. If the cigarette tax were lower the smuggling would be less.. That 1.63b was not there to lose in the first place.


7 posted on 11/12/2017 8:42:49 AM PST by arthurus
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This is not ‘news’, since it was known throught the “Tri-State Area” as such, in the 1980’s!!!!


8 posted on 11/12/2017 8:44:12 AM PST by Terry L Smith
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buy something sold at any store in NJ or CT and bring it back. suddenly its value increases 200x. Drive half a day out to VA and back. you’re at 300%.

who’d a thunk it that smuggling would happen?

this is more profitable than reselling drugs


9 posted on 11/12/2017 8:47:32 AM PST by varyouga
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High taxes on cigarettes did to working class consumers what prohibition did to their grandparent’s alcohol habits. Large scale smuggling much of it by organized crime and street gangs naturally followed. Now as in the time of prohibition the politicians get their cut. However it should be noted that cigarette consumption as had actual alcohol consumption during Prohibition, has actually declined.


11 posted on 11/12/2017 8:53:29 AM PST by allendale (.)
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Ah, “the law is an ass” principle at work.


13 posted on 11/12/2017 9:02:29 AM PST by headstamp 2 (My "White Privilege" is my work ethic.)
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When Booze was banned NY was the Nat. smuggling hub.
14 posted on 11/12/2017 9:06:48 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country)
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Not surprising with the prices of them, as they are most likely the highest priced p[ace in the whole world for cigarettes.


15 posted on 11/12/2017 9:06:58 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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Remember that big heavyset guy the NYC cops strangled til he had a heart attack a couple of years ago? The whole incident started because he was selling single cigarettes out on the sidewalk.


16 posted on 11/12/2017 9:13:44 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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When the combined State and City tax on cigarettes comes to $5.85 per pack, smuggling becomes economically lucrative.
22 posted on 11/12/2017 9:21:23 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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It should be no function of the government whatsoever to regulate what I put in my body.


23 posted on 11/12/2017 9:32:09 AM PST by RedStateRocker
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Walk down any street in Mid-town Manhattan and you see those halal food carts that also sell smokes.Major brands go for something like $12 a pack.
25 posted on 11/12/2017 9:42:11 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (ObamaCare Works For Those Who Don't.)
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Remember the NYC police killed that man who was selling untaxed cigarettes and passively resisted arrest. The tax collectors fly into a rage when they don’t get what they want.


27 posted on 11/12/2017 9:53:51 AM PST by WatchungEagle
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High taxation or banning of any item just creates more opportunities for illegal distribution. Where there is sufficient demand for an item the supply will rise to meet demand.


30 posted on 11/12/2017 10:15:54 AM PST by Boomer One ( ToUsesn)
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Who didn’t see this coming?

People bringing cigs in from out of state. Can’t blame them.

People quitting smoking because it costs too much. A good thing.

Results: Less tax revenue.


31 posted on 11/12/2017 10:27:31 AM PST by Terry Mross (Liver spots And blood thinners..)
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32 posted on 11/12/2017 10:30:19 AM PST by Rebelbase (There are only two genders. The rest are mental disorders.)
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