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Profs: Math classes 'inaccessible and oppressive' to students
Campus Reform ^ | October 30, 2017 | Toni Airaksinen

Posted on 10/30/2017 9:22:55 AM PDT by C19fan

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To: C19fan

I think there are two tiers going on in education. The try-hards who take all the AP classes and struggle to get into popular universities will continue to challenge themselves.

The give-ups are being educated by the same people who keep big public school districts mediocre, keeping people on the plantation.

Thank God for the aspirational people in America who continue to try to learn and try their best. They will have a heavy load to carry as they take over the institutions of society.


61 posted on 10/30/2017 11:01:01 AM PDT by married21 ( As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: C19fan

Note to all academics: If you and your curriculum are not going to implement Marxist memes then you should not be allowed to “teach”, as those meme’s are all that is important. /sarc


62 posted on 10/30/2017 11:07:02 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: C19fan

I loved math and science the best of all my classes in HS and college.

I still like solving puzzles, and math ones are fun.

I’m happy I am as old as I am.


63 posted on 10/30/2017 11:07:48 AM PDT by Gumdrop (She made her bed and is now lying in it.)
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To: windsorknot

The students tried to mount a rebellion against calculus back in the 1850s - they wanted to be “the Knownothings” who thought there was no possible application for calculus in the real world .... they burned their books, went on marches ... all for nothing!


64 posted on 10/30/2017 11:11:26 AM PDT by Ken522
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To: Red Badger
"Then I guess the whole Civil Rights Era WAS A WASTE OF TIME..."

I'm confused. Are you being sarcastic, or have you just had an epiphany?

Affirmative Action resulted in a President Ofailure.

We've spent 60 years trying to teach a pig to dance. It's frustrated us, and annoyed the pig.

65 posted on 10/30/2017 11:15:59 AM PDT by jonascord (First rule of the Dunning-Kruger Club is that you do not know you are in the Dunning-Kruger club.)
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To: WKUHilltopper

Colleges cannot teach math. Their students are not prepared for college. Public schools do not require students to learn their basic math facts. This came about, so school systems would need more teachers for ‘special education’. More failing students = more teachers needed. More teachers needed = more union dues. Simple as that. See how it all adds up?

Our future leaders will come from private schools, where facts are still taught and instruction still takes place.


66 posted on 10/30/2017 11:25:31 AM PDT by abclily
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To: Red Badger
Then I guess the whole Civil Rights Era WAS A WASTE OF TIME..........................

That was intentional.

Biggest scam of the twentieth century.

67 posted on 10/30/2017 11:25:38 AM PDT by ChicagahAl (Stay safe out there. The Haters™ are dangerous. Very dangerous.)
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To: RoosterRedux

You are absolutely correct about the vo/tech schools. Also, students preparing to pass the High School Equivalency Test are learning math.


68 posted on 10/30/2017 11:30:07 AM PDT by abclily
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To: C19fan
Use the kind of rules from Harrison Bergeron, by Kurt Vonnegut.

All people who can do math have an advantage, so they must be handicapped by continuously being bombarded with loud noises that make it impossible to think.

Here's the story. Very short and fitting for today's society.

Harrison Bergeron

69 posted on 10/30/2017 11:32:11 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Kill: NFL, Hollywood, NBA, BLM, CAIR, Antifa, SPLC, CNN, ESPN, NPR, TWITTER, FACEBOOK)
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To: Right Wing Assault; All

Check my post #69. Meant to send it to all.


70 posted on 10/30/2017 11:34:47 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Kill: NFL, Hollywood, NBA, BLM, CAIR, Antifa, SPLC, CNN, ESPN, NPR, TWITTER, FACEBOOK)
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To: GingisK
My static C++ analyzer has been flagging use of BOOL types where the usage if (var == TRUE) is preferentially replaced with if (var != FALSE). The principle reason being that BOOL is often a macro for type "int". A lazy programmer will write if (var) { do_something(); } relying on a zero value of var to be treated as a false boolean. The danger is that any non-zero value for var is "true". Sloppy. Bite you in the butt kind of coding.
71 posted on 10/30/2017 11:48:58 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: JimSEA
What does this even mean?.

It means that assigning even a small part of a students grade to social justice rather than mathematical skill and knowledge is better than none at all.

72 posted on 10/30/2017 12:18:12 PM PDT by LambSlave
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To: Defiant

We’re graduating a generation of know-nothings.””

I haven’t found anyone under the age of 40 that I would have hired to work in my bookkeeping business. This just makes that job harder to fill.

Sure glad I went to ONE ROOM school—8 grades—14 kids—teacher with 2 years college education—no running water—2 outhouses behind the school—and a merry-go-round for recess. I would NOT trade that grade school education for ANYTHING offered today in the schools I pay taxes to support.


73 posted on 10/30/2017 12:20:11 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: edh

I don’t want to be tainted with all of this discrimination and would certainly be happy with a cash refund adjusted for inflation.”””

I bought my first house in 1966, at age 26. Due to an inheritance, owning more than one house at a time, up to now, I have paid out 86 years of property tax payments, which include school costs.

I have no kids, therefore no grand kids. I certainly would like a refund of all those monies I paid for all those snowflakes to NOT LEARN a damn thing. One house alone I paid about $2000 a year for 25 years. Half of that would be $25,000 alone. On Soc Sec, that would be wonderful to have.


74 posted on 10/30/2017 12:26:22 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: C19fan

I spent over an hour on Friday afternoon trying to explain to a group of PhDs the mechanics of solving Reynold’s hydraulics equation by using iteration, and I think only 1 in about 10 got it.

The universities are graduating people majoring in fluff.


75 posted on 10/30/2017 12:38:48 PM PDT by BuffaloJack (Men stand up for freedom; slaves kneel before their masters.)
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To: ridesthemiles

“One house alone I paid about $2000 a year for 25 years.”

School taxes are the biggest scam in the history of non-Clinton related scams. They’re disgusting. The borough where I used to live has seen school taxes triple since 1990. It used to be a solid red borough, but that’s changed over the past ~30 years.

The size of the graduating class is the exact same, yet property taxes have tripled. What’s disgusting is that their statewide ranking has fallen during that time.

Adjusted for inflation, they’re getting almost double the money yet the school is getting worse. However, I am a backwards, anti-neanderthal, anti-science bigot when I ask that simple question “Why?”.

They did get a brand new extension on the high school (enrollment is the same, but they needed more space) and a fresh football stadium overhaul, with press box, though. Glad to see they’re putting that money to good use.


76 posted on 10/30/2017 12:51:43 PM PDT by edh (I need a better tagline)
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To: Ken522

“they wanted to be “the Knownothings” who thought there was no possible application for calculus in the real world”

I’ll probably get slammed for this, but I can see their point :-).

Most people have no need for calculus. There is plenty of applied mathematics that’s more than difficult enough for most people to master. Forcing someone to take advanced math that has problems with the fundamentals is a recipe for disaster.

I’d rather see a solid approach to applied mathematic fundamentals in high schools vs. the classical route that few benefit from (i.e. two years of algebra, geometry, trig, calculus). Most people need math as a blunt instrument to get through life. Teaching it from a mathematician perspective for college prep screws a lot of students in that they’re not wired to learn math that way.

I’m not saying that calculus should be removed from public schools ... I’m simply saying that “number of graduating students that took AP Calculus” shouldn’t be the be all, end all measurement of mathematical mastery at the high school level.

Sure, we’d look stupid to the rest of the world, but high schools should be more concerned with teaching lifelong fundamentals so that people can learn what they need when they need to know it vs. this idiotic curriculum that is screwing up kids these days.

It’s seems like (to me) public schools cater to the top 25% of college bound students and disgracefully ignore the remaining 75% ... those remaining 75% waste many years of the prime of their lives sitting in classrooms learning nothing.


77 posted on 10/30/2017 1:01:44 PM PDT by edh (I need a better tagline)
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To: C19fan
I speak from experience; penn state is the largest anti free speech Marxist organization on the east coast; they only do indoctrination and socialist engineering anymore.
78 posted on 10/30/2017 1:06:38 PM PDT by Herakles (Diversity is a globalist scam for power!)
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To: C19fan
Your version is entirely to rigorous.

Future math question: If Thomas Jefferson owned 500 slaves and he whipped 100 during the year, how should the un-whipped slaves feel?

79 posted on 10/30/2017 1:07:50 PM PDT by Mr.Unique (The government, by its very nature, cannot give except what it first takes.)
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To: C19fan

Just doing their part in the formation of a stupid electorate.


80 posted on 10/30/2017 1:12:16 PM PDT by pax_et_bonum (Never Forget the SEALs of Extortion 17 - and God Bless The United States of America.)
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