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Trump's Pardoning Powers Could Be Limited After Mueller's First Indictment
Newsweek via Yahoo ^ | October 29th, 2017 | Jason Silverstein

Posted on 10/29/2017 3:23:28 PM PDT by Mariner

With the first indictment looming from the federal Trump-Russia investigation, President Donald Trump is getting a reminder: His pardoning pardons can’t fix everything.

“I don't think the president's power is all that absolute, as people have been suggesting,” California Representative Adam Schiff, the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, told ABC News’ “This Week” Sunday.

“The president cannot pardon people if it's an effort to obstruct justice, if it's an effort to prevent Bob Mueller and others from learning about the President's own conduct. So, there are limitations.”

Special Counsel Robert Mueller, who has been investigating the Trump campaign’s potential Russia ties, is expected to unseal his first criminal charges as early as Monday.

Schiff said he has not been told who will be hit by the indictments, but he believes based on press reports that it will either be former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort or former national security adviser Michael Flynn. Both men resigned from their positions after controversy over their ties to foreign governments, which Mueller has been scrutinizing.

If Trump tries to pardon whoever faces charges, he could several major hurdles.

The Constitution allows the president broad powers to pardon people for “Offenses against the United States." There is no precedent for a sitting president pardoning people tied to his campaign, as will likely be the case for Mueller’s debut indictment.

(Excerpt) Read more at yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: adamschiff; manafort; pardons; president; russia; schiff; trump; trumprussia
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Yes Virginia, they really do make people this stupid.
1 posted on 10/29/2017 3:23:28 PM PDT by Mariner
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There is no limit as to the power of the President when it comes to Pardoning Powers. That is Constitution 101 stuff.


2 posted on 10/29/2017 3:25:17 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Mariner

The President’s power to pardon is absolute. The constitution places no check on it.


3 posted on 10/29/2017 3:25:23 PM PDT by Timmy
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To: Mariner

Sorry, but the president can pardon anyone he jolly well pleases.


4 posted on 10/29/2017 3:25:34 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter
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To: Mariner

The power of the president to pardon people is unlimited, except
that he cannot pardon himself from an impeachment.

That power was made unlimited because the Founders knew that political factions might try and use the legal system to suppress their enemies;
and so they might be thwarted by the pardon power.

If the people, through their representatives in the House, objected, they could impeach the president — fire him; but not jail him, because he could even pardon himself.

A bad man in office might be got rid of; but no faction would ever have the power to use the legal system to suppress its enemies.


5 posted on 10/29/2017 3:25:49 PM PDT by CondorFlight
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RTFMC, Congressman. The power is not limited the way you say. You may Impeach him if you feel it was done for obstruction of justice, but you cannot overturn the pardon.
6 posted on 10/29/2017 3:26:16 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (#DeplorableMe #BitterClinger #HillNO! #cishet #MyPresident #MAGA #Winning #covfefe)
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My tagline says it “Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.”


7 posted on 10/29/2017 3:26:24 PM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: Mariner

Trumps pardon power IS ABSOLUTE!!!!


8 posted on 10/29/2017 3:26:46 PM PDT by Lord Casselreagh
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This piece is mistaken. The pardon power is a check to judicial or prosecutorial overreach.


9 posted on 10/29/2017 3:27:01 PM PDT by cotton1706
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To: Mariner

Pardons do not have limits.

Wishful thinking on Newsweek.


10 posted on 10/29/2017 3:27:04 PM PDT by Enlightened1
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Every pardon obstructs justice - they are intended to put an end to a criminal prosecution of threat thereof.


11 posted on 10/29/2017 3:27:06 PM PDT by theoilpainter
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Globalist elites want to run your lives, folks. This is why they're trying so hard to get rid of Trump.

Our votes simply don't matter anymore. Therefore, it's time to resort to the other box....

12 posted on 10/29/2017 3:27:15 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (We're right, you're wrong - that's the end of the argument.)
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Yeah, he can pardon anyone, Adam, ya pillow biting scum.


13 posted on 10/29/2017 3:28:08 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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“The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any Subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.”

What this means is that POTUS can pardon anyone, except he cannot pardon a Judge who is being impeached by Congress.

Where Congress has jurisdiction to impeach, he cannot pardon.

Meaning also he cannot pardon himself from impeachment and removal.

Yet lefty dimwits think it reaches to anyone associated with a Special Investigation if there is potential of leading up to POTUS.

Friggin’ laughable.


14 posted on 10/29/2017 3:28:28 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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Nonsense, but par for the course from a source that was sold for one dollar.


15 posted on 10/29/2017 3:28:53 PM PDT by Fungi (What the hell is a fungus?)
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Flynn is a military hero. You’re going to stop the president from sparing him a criminal prosecution? I don’t think Trump will pardon him but this shows you the creeps assembled by Mueller, they would cause a Constitutional crisis by being the ones to violate the law of the land.


16 posted on 10/29/2017 3:30:16 PM PDT by Williams (Stop tolerating the intolerant.)
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OH if adamn schiff (💩) said so..... Not sure which one is the bigger doofus. Him or b-rad sherman. Fidiots!
17 posted on 10/29/2017 3:30:34 PM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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“I don't think the president's power is all that absolute, as people have been suggesting,” California Representative Adam Schiff, the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, told ABC News’

Show it to us in a legal, constitutional document or shut the BLEEP up!


18 posted on 10/29/2017 3:30:39 PM PDT by Vlad The Inhaler (Libtards wish anarchy and death for others, but exempt themselves.)
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But I don’t think he will want to pardon Hillary, or Obama.


19 posted on 10/29/2017 3:30:54 PM PDT by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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LoL appears so.


20 posted on 10/29/2017 3:31:21 PM PDT by Red Steel
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