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To: newfreep

Hang in there. Recent developments make it seem likely the Democrats are the ones being hurt here.

Mueller may in fact pull it out.

I’m not going to go as far as Gowdy, but I am willing to hold off for a period of time to see how this plays out.


5 posted on 10/25/2017 12:22:59 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Rush Limbaugh: 45% of California families speak a foreign language at home. Oth src: full U.S. 21%)
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To: DoughtyOne

I’ll agree with you in that the entire investigation was designed to be a giant head fake to implicate as many of the establishment pukes on the record as possible along with knowing the knee-jerk reaction the left and media would box themselves into.

Could this explain the recent actions of Corker, Flake and McCain, not to mention America’s ex-wife!


8 posted on 10/25/2017 12:26:32 PM PDT by mazda77
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To: DoughtyOne

I get the drift of what you’re alluding to, but if Mueller is as big a crook himself as he’s reputed to be, right here on FR, I wouldn’t advise holding your breath.


13 posted on 10/25/2017 12:34:14 PM PDT by Tucker39 (Read: Psalm 145. The whole psalm.....aloud; as praise to our God.)
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To: DoughtyOne

I don’t know how this is all going to play out, but it would certainly be amusing if Mueller’s probe ended up indicting various Democrats such as the Podesta group, and essentially left Trump untouched. There are plausible arguments why this is possible, despite Mueller’s supposed anti-Trump bias and his hiring of Democrat-leaning lawyers.

1. Mueller needs to indict some people, probably multiple people, to justify the tremendous amount of time and money he has consumed. Special prosecutors historically do not come up empty handed. They don’t end up saying “Oh well, it turns out nothing illegal happened, good bye.” Given the plethora of laws in this country, it’s always possible to find a few that a target has violated (or at least can be accused of violating). Mueller and his team will keep digging and digging until they cobble together indictments.

2. But the indictments don’t have to be against Trump or his family or close advisors. That may have been Mueller’s original preference, but if it turns out to be Podesta or Fallon or Fusion LLC or Manafort, that still justifies the probe. Reputation-wise, Mueller would come out looking like a hero for being fair and non-partisan. Democrats would be privately pissed, but they couldn’t complain too loudly after spending months publically lionizing Mueller. Republicans and Trump would shower Mueller with praise. On the other hand, Mueller knows that if he just tries to indict Trump or Trump’s close associates, Trump will viciously attack Mueller and half the country will hate him. And Trump will also pardon any of the targets, thus rendering all of Mueller’s efforts moot.

2. The bottom line is that unless Trump and his campaign truly did something highly illegal, any attempt by Mueller to “get” Trump will have painful repercussions for Mueller and won’t end up destroying Trump. Whereas going after the Democrat/Russian connections will have pleasant consequences for Mueller. So, does Mueller pick pain or pleasure? We’ll see.


42 posted on 10/25/2017 2:09:34 PM PDT by dpwiener
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To: DoughtyOne

You are right. Let’s see where it goes. One thing is certain, there is nothing on trump.


58 posted on 10/25/2017 6:28:12 PM PDT by Titus-Maximus (It doesn't matter who votes for whom, it only matters who counts the votes - Joe Stalin)
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