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Lawyer: Unconstitutional to block FBI informant's testimony
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Posted on 10/21/2017 9:02:40 AM PDT by yoe

Oct. 19, 2017 - 6:13 - Victoria Toensing wants DOJ to release client from non-disclosure agreement so he can testify on Obama-era Russian nuclear deal.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fbiinformant; russiabriberyscandal; toensing
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To: ex91B10
100% and then Trump can pardon him if need be
21 posted on 10/21/2017 10:01:37 AM PDT by Chode (You have all of the resources you are going to have. Abandon your illusions and plan accordingly.)
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To: Fantasywriter

That’s bullcrap and that’s a mere theory has been posted a few times as “proof”.

Dershowitz is no friend of Trump and utterly destroyed this. Swing and a miss. There is nothing in the law or constitution that the DOJ is independent of the control of the president. What you posted is a progressive fantasy.
Even Comey at his own hearing admitted that Trump has that power.

He can start, stop, or direct any investigation. He can fire Mueller or anyone at the DOJ.
And the ramblings of a judge are meaningless. I notice you pointed to nothing in the law or constitution that limits the power of the president over the DOJ.

It doesn’t exist.


22 posted on 10/21/2017 10:18:51 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ...)
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To: Fantasywriter

So, Sessions is defying Trump’s orders here? And the evidence of this is ????????


23 posted on 10/21/2017 10:21:06 AM PDT by theoilpainter
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To: Fantasywriter

No matter what that judge said, he was in the sophistry zone.

The president has the power to shut down the entire investigation, fire the special counsel, (notice the word independent wasn’t used), Fire the FBI director, and pardon the person being investigated. And yet, moronic sophists in the legal field pretend he can “obstruct” these same people. Laughable.

Its an ongoing fiction designed to try to make the DOJ independent of their constitutional supervisor, the President. But it has zero basis in law or constitution. They don’t like that they are merely a fully subordinate executive agency, but that is what they are.

For a recent review, ask Comey how “independent” he was. He advanced your theory and got bit@h slapped.


24 posted on 10/21/2017 10:30:55 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ...)
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To: Spacetrucker

Rip is definitely a captive (willing, apparently) of the DoJ bureaucracy as developed most recently by H0lder and Cankles Lynch.

Appointing and supporting Deep Stater RosenKrantz keeps change at bay.


25 posted on 10/21/2017 10:38:30 AM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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To: kjam22; Fantasywriter

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Imagine Trump fires Sessions and nominates someone. Senate let’s him know that they refuse to confirm anyone he nominates. So his only logical recourse is to just work harder.... therefore, he decides the he will serve the country as acting AG and President, until the Senate decides to confirm a nominee.
>

I’d love to see him fire on down-the-line ‘til he finds one he can count on\trust...’acting’ head.

Then, sic ‘em on D.C. and watch the fun


26 posted on 10/21/2017 10:43:05 AM PDT by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: kjam22

Trump has taught me how powerless people are who make threats like not confirming a replacement. they rely on a line not being crossed and usually have not thought through the ramifications of there threat. my guess is that if trump were to fire sessions that congress would blink first especially if Trump then goes on to remove other troubled individuals that through seniority would take his place as acting director.


27 posted on 10/21/2017 10:51:08 AM PDT by PCPOET7
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To: DesertRhino

For the record, no, I do not believe you know more about the limitations of the POTUS when it comes to ordering the AG around than does former AG Mukasey. I do believe that YOU are convinced that between you and Mukasey, you know more.

Trump has asked Sessions repeatedly why Hillary isn’t being investigated. How, per your singular insight into the law, can Trump ***force*** Sessions to open that investigation?


28 posted on 10/21/2017 10:52:35 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Inernet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: theoilpainter

See post 28.


29 posted on 10/21/2017 10:53:52 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Inernet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: DesertRhino

Thanks for proving my point. Trump could not order Comey around; all he could do was fire him. Which is EXACTLY what I had already posted.


30 posted on 10/21/2017 10:55:56 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Inernet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: i_robot73

That would work.


31 posted on 10/21/2017 10:57:32 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Inernet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Alberta's Child

Good point.

Toensing will get to it I bet.

The ship is turning still, even with the violent currents. I’m looking forward to experiencing the dam breaking. I suspect one Tuesday night in November of next year it’ll bust.


32 posted on 10/21/2017 11:21:18 AM PDT by Principled (OMG I'm so tired of all this winning...)
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To: DesertRhino

Lol just hire a Justice Czar.


33 posted on 10/21/2017 11:23:01 AM PDT by Principled (OMG I'm so tired of all this winning...)
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To: Alberta's Child

Damned Good Point. There’s probably some bogus NATSEC override( though.


34 posted on 10/21/2017 11:53:36 AM PDT by txhurl
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To: Principled
Toensing will get to it I bet.

She called it unconstitutional and also pointed out that violating an NDA is a civil, not a criminal, matter.

35 posted on 10/21/2017 11:55:26 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: chris37

>>I’d be fine with having Jeff Sessions arrested for aiding and abetting treason at this point.
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Yes, but who (or what entity) would be the one to actually do it?


36 posted on 10/21/2017 11:56:26 AM PDT by Kalamata (Inside Every Liberal is a Totalitarian Screaming to Get Out - D. Horowitz)
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To: DesertRhino

Keep in mind that the whole purpose of a special counsel isn’t to operate independently to prevent meddling by the President or AG for political purposes, but to avoid compromising the integrity of an investigation. Having the president direct an investigation — even if he’s well within his authority to do so — is a sure-fire way to let a potential criminal defendant skate.


37 posted on 10/21/2017 12:04:45 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Tell them to stand!" -- President Trump, 9/23/2017)
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To: DesertRhino

I don’t want this person testifying to congress, why, for what purpose?
Fast & Furious : people died.... Investigated by congress
IRS scandal : laws broken ... Investigated by congress
Benghazi : Laws broken, people died... Investigated by congress
I want a secret Grand Jury impaneled , and charges brought forward for prosecution. What is testifying to congress going to accomplish? Its not going to accomplish anything, as usual.


38 posted on 10/21/2017 12:07:29 PM PDT by crosdaddy
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To: DesertRhino

Congress can also pass a law protecting the whistleblower from prosecution or retaliation, and provide for punishing anyone personally who attempts to do so. That can be done by simple majority vote should Congress choose to make it happen.


39 posted on 10/21/2017 12:10:49 PM PDT by Real Cynic No More (Border Fence Obamacare!Jim robinson)
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To: DesertRhino

True, but these committees have no consequences to issue, except for being allowed to make referrals to the sleepy Just Us Department.

Grassley at least keeps shining the light on those who thought they had skated.


40 posted on 10/21/2017 12:21:12 PM PDT by RitaOK (Viva Christo Rey! Public Education/Academia are the farm team for more Marxists coming... infinitum.)
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