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The F-35 Rumor Mill Is Spinning After Israeli Counter Strike On Syrian SAM Site
The Drive ^ | OCTOBER 17, 2017 | TYLER ROGOWAY

Posted on 10/18/2017 5:44:35 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

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1 posted on 10/18/2017 5:44:35 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

The F-15 or 16 gets the SAM to light it up and the F-35 sneaks in and nails the site.


2 posted on 10/18/2017 5:49:32 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

>>IAF’s claims of air superiority in the region.<<

If they have at least one F-15 Strike Eagle they have air superiority.

The F35 Flying Anvil was the best idea possible executed in the worst way possible.


3 posted on 10/18/2017 5:50:55 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (ALL records destroyed/faked, books rewritten, statues renamed, dates altered and more.../1984)
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To: AppyPappy

Um... given modern technology, that’s something the -16 can do for itself. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AGM-88_HARM - to name just one possible response. In fact, we use F-16s to do that duty now: https://www.defensetech.org/2017/06/22/air-forces-f-16-wild-weasels-hunt-missile-sites-destroy/

No F-35 required.


4 posted on 10/18/2017 5:54:58 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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A HARM works well but it requires an active radar which SAM sites turn off when the plane gets in HARM range.

So the F-15 roams around just outside HARM range while the F-35 comes in low and nails the site


5 posted on 10/18/2017 6:03:11 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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To: Spktyr

I always thought the F-105 was an interesting choice to serve as a Wild Weasel plane...it seemed so big and ungainly...

Being a Wild Weasel pilot is a hell of a way to earn a living!


6 posted on 10/18/2017 6:03:15 AM PDT by rlmorel (Liberals: American Liberty is the egg that requires breaking to make their Utopian omelette.)
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To: Spktyr

If you follow some of the Wiki links, it seems the Israelis intercepted an SA-5 missile with an Arrow AA missile back in March.


7 posted on 10/18/2017 6:10:24 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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To: AppyPappy; mazda77

Love Israel constantly whipping Syria’s head around.


8 posted on 10/18/2017 6:16:23 AM PDT by txhurl
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To: AppyPappy

HARM no longer requires an active radar. About 10 years ago it got an upgrade - it ‘remembers’ where it last saw the radar and goes over to investigate. It can either attack the last location or it can loiter in the area waiting for the SAM site to come back up even briefly, at which point it strikes. The HARM can “see” further than it can travel, so it doesn’t matter if the site goes off the air when the aircraft gets to HARM launch range, the HARM still knows where it was.

The very latest version (-E) as of 2010 actually incorporates its own radar transceiver and can attack the hostile radar even if it is shut off and has started to move. Again - the -16 can do this all by itself, no F-35 required.


9 posted on 10/18/2017 6:21:03 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: AppyPappy

The Arrow isn’t an air-to-air missile, it’s a dedicated ABM/anti-missile missile. Not terribly surprising that it can take out the big old SA-5. The SA-5 is a flying telephone pole with delta wings.


10 posted on 10/18/2017 6:25:14 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: freedumb2003
The F35 Flying Anvil was the best idea possible executed in the worst way possible.

It's a textbook example of design by committee, bureaucrats and central planning, why government run projects are always money pits.

11 posted on 10/18/2017 6:29:32 AM PDT by Reeses (A journey of a thousand miles begins with a government pat down.)
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To: AppyPappy

Turning off your anti-aircraft radar when it detects an aircraft doesn’t sound particularly effective.


12 posted on 10/18/2017 6:40:25 AM PDT by suthener
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It is when a first generation homing anti-radar missile is following the radar emission back to the source.


13 posted on 10/18/2017 6:59:07 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Israel needs to develop a small bomber capable of delivering small diameter bombs (SDBs) at high altitude. Some types of 250lb SDBs can glide 70 miles to their target, which means that Israel could hit targets throughout Lebanon, and much of southern Syria without even crossing the border.


14 posted on 10/18/2017 7:20:45 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Hitlers Mein Kampf, translated into Arabic, is "My Jihad")
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To: rlmorel

I worked on those at George afb


15 posted on 10/18/2017 7:54:20 AM PDT by Iron head mike (If we are descended from apes why are there still apes????)
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To: rlmorel

The F-105 flew air defense suppression as a matter of circumstance. It’s primary mission before Vietnam was nuclear strike. The Weasel mission was developed in the F-100. Unfortunately the F-100 lacked durability and speed - both of which the F-105 had in spades.


16 posted on 10/18/2017 8:08:26 AM PDT by Tuttle214
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17 posted on 10/18/2017 8:13:28 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Tuttle214

All true. I heard that when you put that thing into a dive at full power, it would go like hell!


18 posted on 10/18/2017 8:16:48 AM PDT by rlmorel (Liberals: American Liberty is the egg that requires breaking to make their Utopian omelette.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Good morning.

An SA-5 is not the new S-300?

Right?

5.56mm


19 posted on 10/18/2017 8:27:03 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: rlmorel
The first wild weasel configured airplane was actually the F-100F. It did not have the range to "go north" effectively.

The F-105F (later-G) was later used because it was already in theater WRT support and maintenance and was on the way out as a first line fighter bomber in TAC elsewhere.

In short, the F-105 was available and expendable. My scoutmaster went down in one of the first F-105F Wild Weasel missions, he was the GIB.

Capt Ben Newsome RIP.

20 posted on 10/18/2017 8:28:14 AM PDT by pfflier
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