Posted on 10/17/2017 10:52:16 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
A global tipping point for electric cars could come as early as 2022, as battery costs decrease and concerns about range and infrastructure ease. Thats from analysts at Bank of America Merrill Lynch, who in a little over a years time have turned even more optimistic about the future dominance of electric cars over internal-combustion vehicles. In a Tuesday note, the analysts forecast that one in three cars will be purely electric by 2030; their July 2016 prediction was one in 10 by the same year. There are several factors converging that have led us to revise our thinking a combination of changing customer preferences, increasingly viable product, regulation, and infrastructure, they said in the note.
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Lincoln 'Town Car' (critics say it will never become viable. No utility. Too few gas stations.
You’re paying way more for your “fuel” than you need to.
I can make a car payment with as many times as you ‘recharge” a month.
To each his own.
I’m driving a Nissan Leaf currently. Been driving it for 4 years now. Love it!
Chevy is coming out with the Bolt soon, which will be all electric. I’m curious about that one, but I really want a Tesla.
I’ve got a spreadsheet that shows my cost savings with gas vs. electric including car payment, insurance, charge-time etc. I’m actually saving close to $220 a month on gas just by charging instead.
Great to hear that you love your Volt!
The Tesla page has a calculator at page bottom with options for a road trip and supercharger use. May select miles driven to receive the charge time for (80% charge per forum?). It displays 41 minutes (S series) or 46 minutes (X series) for 200 miles.
Read the owner comments in the Tesla forum. Interesting!
https://www.tesla.com/charging
https://forums.tesla.com/forum/forums/mileage-one-charge
Chevy Bolt has been at the dealers for maybe a year now, but in limited quantities. Around $40k, 200+ mile range.
Well yeah, that’s the next step: inductive charging. Just park in the “recharge here” parking space, come back to charged vehicle.
My one & ongoing concern is interference with medical devices. Pacemakers in particular are very close to my heart...
Are we to believe that you assume no transformers are involved in residential power distribution?
“Are we to believe that you assume no transformers are involved in residential power distribution?”
I made no assumptions.
“NO ONE advocating electric cars ever wants to speak to [electricity production]”
I address it frequently.
First off, scale: we’re talking the equivalent of 10-30 hundred-watt light bulbs lit overnight.
There’s lots of off-peak unused capacity already in the system which producers are begging customers to use. That will cover a LOT of EVs for starters.
Home electricity use is dropping. The requirement to end use of incandescents, along with other high-efficiency changes, means home power use is dropping 50-90%. Producers would like to keep selling electricity, with their production capacity not diminishing.
Electricity can be produced from many different sources.
There’s a reason Musk started Solar City and rolled it into Tesla (ya think?). Price of a “solar roof” system capable of mostly powering your car is about the price of the car (not cheap up front, but gives you nearly complete off-grid driving capability).
As demand for gasoline per se diminishes, that industry will seek new customers - say, local electricity generation.
Fuel cell tech is improving, increasingly making use of hydrocarbon fuels.
Several major meta-manufacturers are looking for customers for “safe & cheap” compact nuclear power systems.
Methinks between all of those, we can sort out powering EVs. Not like the need will be overnight.
And remember: wasn’t all that long ago that gas stations were few & far between, and naysayers complained “there’s no gas where you’re going!”
Funny thing capitalism: given a demand, a supply will arise.
“My one & ongoing concern is interference with medical devices. Pacemakers in particular are very close to my heart...”
Samsung has a patent on a device to charge pacemakers from your cellphone! Says it is scalable to car charging.
http://www.patentlymobile.com/2014/04/samsung-invents-wireless-charging-for-pacemakers-beyond.html
Battery pack weight is a factor in tire wear. Model S curb weight is 4,469 to 4,941 lbs. depending on range variant chosen. SUV requirements for tires, shocks, brakes, and suspension components apply.
Lack of electric motor torque isn’t the issue for farm equipment.
Wow!
Didn’t know it’s been out that long. EV dealer I work with says the range will be over 300+ miles in about 2-3 years.
“If I cant pile the kids and the mrs in the car and go at least 300 miles before I have to stop (preferrably far more) you arent replacing the typical combustion vehicle for most people.”
Tesla Model 3 satisfies your criteria.
“Lack of electric motor torque isnt the issue for farm equipment.”
Imagine that equipment without a transmission and that associated cost and maintenance.
Residential transformer sizing hasn’t accounted for an added electrical vehicle load during a peak draw season. See ANSI standards based tables:
https://www.electricities.com/Libraries/Training/Transformer_Sizing_Handout.sflb.ashx
“Battery pack weight is a factor in tire wear. Model S curb weight is 4,469 to 4,941 lbs.”
The Tesla Model 3 is 3,549 to 3,814 lbs. Full size sedans with gas run over 4000 pounds.
“Residential transformer sizing hasnt accounted for an added electrical vehicle load during a peak draw season. “
Peak load is early evening. Turn off the lights, stove, tv and go to bed and your AC load is also reduced.
This total load drop will be more than the EV charging rate which can be programmed to occur while you are sleeping!
“I chewed up a set of 65k mile tires in 17k miles.”
My Mustang was just service with 8k miles. They told me I might make it to 10k if I was very gentle from now till then.
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