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The death of the gas-powered car, in one chart (Liberal wet dream!)
MarketWatch ^ | 10/17/17 | Claudia Assis

Posted on 10/17/2017 10:52:16 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway

A global tipping point for electric cars could come as early as 2022, as battery costs decrease and concerns about range and infrastructure ease. That’s from analysts at Bank of America Merrill Lynch, who in a little over a year’s time have turned even more optimistic about the future dominance of electric cars over internal-combustion vehicles. In a Tuesday note, the analysts forecast that one in three cars will be purely electric by 2030; their July 2016 prediction was one in 10 by the same year. “There are several factors converging that have led us to revise our thinking — a combination of changing customer preferences, increasingly viable product, regulation, and infrastructure,” they said in the note.

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To: jonno

(imagine the stress of being stuck in traffic with a low battery - and the temp is sub-zero...)\

Again dont confuse libos with truth and facts.

Oh they’re coming after me now!

MAGA!


141 posted on 10/17/2017 12:01:13 PM PDT by Uversabound (Might does not make right, but it does enforce the commonly recognized rights of each succeeding gen)
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To: Little Pig

They have never recommended loading up evs with heavy weight, or towing stuff. Kills the distance.


142 posted on 10/17/2017 12:01:24 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: ctdonath2

Yeah i am sure they will buy a used hattery back at the price you expect.


143 posted on 10/17/2017 12:02:46 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: ctdonath2

In my job, I frequently drive more than 300 in a day. Plus I’m not home every night so I can’t simply plug in to sleep. $35 K is also well beyond what I’d ever pay for just a car.


144 posted on 10/17/2017 12:03:15 PM PDT by cyclotic (Trump tweets are the only news source you can trust.)
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To: atc23; doorgunner69

“Nothing will replace push rods and pistons - NEVER!”

You’ve got me waxing nostalgic - back to the dystopian future...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9Q05UyIOX4


145 posted on 10/17/2017 12:03:20 PM PDT by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: rdcbn
The Tesla has brutally high acceleration

Thrilling, how many times in succession?

A Top Fuel dragster is impressive as well, once.

146 posted on 10/17/2017 12:03:32 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: Signalman

Heating/cooling had little effect on range in my experience. Not trivial, but far from debilitating.


147 posted on 10/17/2017 12:03:41 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
I’m curious. What does Tesla charge you exactly to recharge at one of those stations? Bet it ain’t free.

Or if it is, it won’t be once 100 million of these things are tooling around.

Good point. Currently the roads are paid for by gas and diesel taxes per gallon. Some kind of tax on electricity used to charge a vehicle will have to happen to maintain the roads or no one is going anywhere unless they figure out a way to make cars hover instead of roll on wheels. I think that one will take a long time to happen; like centuries unless some aliens visit and give us the tech.

We will probably wonder why we didn't think of it since it will probably be something relatively simple like controlling a magnetic field under the vehicle that doesn't even take power to maintain or very little if it does. Look how simple the wheel and fire are and how long it took humans to discover them then use them in all the different ways we do.

Now that I think about it, once we eliminate wheels and the need to overcome the friction it generates to move the vehicle, all kinds of doors open up but also problems to solve like how to move the vehicle and just as important; how to stop it.

148 posted on 10/17/2017 12:03:49 PM PDT by Boomer (The dem party has become the North Korea of American politics; unreasonable, dictatorial, fascist.)
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To: jonno

Yeah, I was also thinking about the range at freezing temperatures. It cuts down battery output quite a bit.

I used to race RC cars back in the 70’s, when electric cars replaced gas cars. They are tremendously trouble free, quiet, clean and reliable compared to gas. I would love to see that benefit in “real” cars. However, I’m not an idiot. I know that scale changes the challenges. Electric cars have reached a point where they are a nice niche product for urban dwellers. Their biggest advantage is the ability to convert braking energy back to power, rather than scrubbing it all off as heat. But for anything that can’t be done almost as well with a golf cart with an enclosed interior, they are not ready for prime time.

Teslas are cool. They have a lot of torque, but they are strictly a “run around town” type of car. And if you can afford one, it’s really great for that - because you also have the Mercedes for the longer range stuff.


149 posted on 10/17/2017 12:04:03 PM PDT by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm male.)
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To: jonno

>> Electric cars? using HEAT =less available
>> drive time/distance.

That is true. However, in all gasoline vehicles, if it’s not winter, which is the case in the vast majority of times and places, then “waste heat” is just plain WASTE. Most people never even think about that.

Not to mention the deleterious effects heat has on drivetrain components.


150 posted on 10/17/2017 12:04:07 PM PDT by Mike-o-Matic
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To: Secret Agent Man

Charging occurs mostly when home power load is minimum. Electricity is actually cheapest then because suppliers _want_ people to consume power off-peak.


151 posted on 10/17/2017 12:05:45 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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To: Boomer

“Could”

No one has created a full working prototype for a car yet, much less have perfected the quality/reliability mass production techniques for making large quantities of this particular battery bank.

With no guarantee any of these batteries will be able to replace any of the existing millions of ev batteries. And the timetable to do that.

You say this like you can get one tomorrow. No big schmeal.


152 posted on 10/17/2017 12:06:32 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: rdcbn

Acceleration on EVs is enough that they need special tires. That awesome torque shreds tires; I chewed up a set of 65k mile tires in 17k miles.


153 posted on 10/17/2017 12:06:44 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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To: cyclotic

EVs aren’t for everyone. You have options.

...strange how many people seem to think EVs are being forced upon everyone. It’s an option, folks, you can use it or not as it works for you.


154 posted on 10/17/2017 12:07:58 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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To: Mike-o-Matic

Where are all of the electric farm tractors, combines, construction equipment, irrigation pumps, stationary engines. There aren’t any-not enough torque in electric engines


155 posted on 10/17/2017 12:08:46 PM PDT by kaktuskid (And)
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To: Boomer

GA charges EV drivers $200/yr in lieu of gas taxes.


156 posted on 10/17/2017 12:09:03 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

Exactly!

They get my V8 when I am out of ammo and then they pry my cold dead hands off the steering wheel.


157 posted on 10/17/2017 12:09:29 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Asking a pro athlete for political advice is like asking a cavalry horse for tactical advice.)
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To: doorgunner69

HEMIS NAILHEADS COBRA JETS CAMMERS -

poor kids nowadays. They don’t know engines from elephants. Most of them couldn’t wire up a table lamp. The women go all gaga over the man buns and plumbersexual look though.


158 posted on 10/17/2017 12:09:31 PM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever)
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To: ctdonath2

Hairdryers are not on for 8 hours continuously. 1500 watts all night for full 8 hours is and extra 360 kilowatt hours a month just by itself, now multiply that by 2 cars times the neighborhood size, and that little neighborhood transformer never cools down overnight.


159 posted on 10/17/2017 12:09:37 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: ctdonath2

I see you dont actually read and respond to what people write, you just spout out whatevr you want to say.


160 posted on 10/17/2017 12:10:52 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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