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Has Trump finally seen the light on ethanol and the RFS?
hotair.com ^ | 10/16/2017 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 10/17/2017 6:16:26 AM PDT by rktman

But then in September, the EPA truly infuriated the biofuel industry by floating the idea of bringing the proposed total even lower, and of revisiting other renewable fuel requirements for 2018 and 2019 finalized under the Obama administration.

The proposal is in line with what the oil and gas industry want (those energy producers think the RFS adds to the cost of refining petroleum and wants to see Congress rewrite the underlying 2005 law). “Until Congress acts to address the structural flaws with the RFS,” Frank J. Macchiarola of the American Petroleum Institute wrote in a letter to the EPA earlier this year, “lowering the volume requirements in 2018 is the most effective short-term way for EPA to address the problems created by the RFS.”

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: cornoil; gasoline; third100days; trumpenergy; trumpepa
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To: MrEdd

Can we get and amen for pork bellies.


21 posted on 10/17/2017 6:34:00 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: rktman

It costs over $100 a year to keep the carburetor on my ATV repaired form the damage....


22 posted on 10/17/2017 6:34:14 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: rktman

This nation will no longer be held hostage to the Iowa Caucuses.


23 posted on 10/17/2017 6:38:12 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: rktman; MrEdd
Add trashed components/tools/vehicles and associated maintenance costs and it's a lose/lose from the gitgo .. well, except for the votes of the .gov subsidized corn farmers.


ps: HOW could I have neglected bacon !   :-\
24 posted on 10/17/2017 6:39:20 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: McGruff

Actually it isn’t for cows either. Grass is way better and lots more natural. And the beef tastes so much better it’s insane.


25 posted on 10/17/2017 6:41:15 AM PDT by Snowybear
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Ethanol has now put farmers into Bankruptcy.When it all started corn prices went to $9.00 a bushel, land $10,000 a acre. Today corn is under $3.00. Farmers are going broke.
Just wait, you will see the results this spring.


26 posted on 10/17/2017 6:42:41 AM PDT by mplc51
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To: mplc51

Big Ag waiting in the wings?


27 posted on 10/17/2017 6:44:04 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: Drew68; All

https://www.pure-gas.org/

I use Race Trak in my area and still put Stabil in each of the 5 gallon jugs I use for hurricane preparedness and then start to use those after hurricane season is ended. At least every 3 months I run each of the things like the generator, to keep its battery charged, and pressure washer in ready state. I go ahead and do some washing since it is out and running.


28 posted on 10/17/2017 6:44:36 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: rktman

While they are at getting rid of the corn gas mandate, end the mandate that made gas cans unusable.


29 posted on 10/17/2017 6:44:59 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Wake up and smell the Covfef)
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To: Snowybear

“Grass is way better and lots more natural. And the beef tastes so much better it’s insane.”

I’d have to call BS on that one.


30 posted on 10/17/2017 6:48:55 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Wake up and smell the Covfef)
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To: Beagle8U
While they are at getting rid of the corn gas mandate, end the mandate that made gas cans unusable.

Thank you!

When the hell did they force these abominations upon us?!?!?!?

I've got an old five gallon red steel gas can that works like it's supposed to. I bought a half dozen plastic 5 gallon containers for a recent hurricane and I couldn't figure out how to get the damn gas out of them!!!

I would up using my steel can and then refilling it from the plastic ones with a funnel.

GARBAGE!!!

31 posted on 10/17/2017 6:50:56 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: Beagle8U

LOL! You mean the unvented kind?


32 posted on 10/17/2017 6:51:37 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: jjotto
Oh yes, of course, spent grain is rich in proteins and vitamins, it is a wonderful animal feed (side note, my favorite bread is "Icky" bread, made from the spent grains from The Great Basin Brewing Company's Ichthyosaur IPA).

BUT US law regards the grain from alcohol fuel production as "industrial waste" and forbids its use as an animal feed.

So ranchers, feed lot operators chicken and pig farmers have to buy their feed grain from corn farmers, the corn growers know it's nice to have a strong lobby...

33 posted on 10/17/2017 6:57:01 AM PDT by null and void (The internet gave everyone a mouth. It gave no one a brain.)
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To: null and void

DDGS are sold locally by every ethanol plant in America. Many don’t dry the product, just dump the wet stuff into trucks for local feedlots.

You may be thinking of some state laws regarding uncooked mash from breweries. Not sure if they’re still in effect.


34 posted on 10/17/2017 7:02:38 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: rktman

All one needs to know is what an energy balance on the process of producing ethanol from corn indicates. An energy balance is a measure of the energy input from all sources required to produce a gallon of ethanol compared to the energy available from that same gallon of ethanol. The energy balance shows that it takes as much or more energy to produce the gallon of ethanol as it provides. To overcome this economic fact, ethanol must be provided with significant taxpayer subsidies in order to work.

So not only is it causing costly repair bills— we are paying dearly for the privilege of having to put up with these bills.

Here is another interesting fact. A 25 gallon tank of pure ethanol requires 450 pounds of corn to produce. This equates to roughly the amount of calories to feed someone for a year. It is pure folly to make fuel from food.


35 posted on 10/17/2017 7:03:05 AM PDT by Saltmeat
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To: rktman

Please quit burning our food.


36 posted on 10/17/2017 7:04:19 AM PDT by upchuck (Looking for a new/different job? Try Genealogy. You can't get fired and you can't quit!)
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To: rktman

Yeah, the ones you have to pay an extra $20 for a after-market hose/vent kit to make it work.

TSC has the best deal on them now, $10...and they work great!


37 posted on 10/17/2017 7:11:42 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Wake up and smell the Covfef)
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To: jjotto
*shrug* I could be wrong, but that is what I recall. Perhaps it was the initial law since repealed?

*nully does a web search here*

It was a part of the FSMA...

The FDA Food Safety Modernization Act (FSMA), the most sweeping reform of our food safety laws in more than 70 years, was signed into law by President Obama on January 4, 2011. It aims to ensure the U.S. food supply is safe by shifting the focus from responding to contamination to preventing it.

obama. That name keeps appearing on anything that hurts America...

38 posted on 10/17/2017 7:18:01 AM PDT by null and void (The internet gave everyone a mouth. It gave no one a brain.)
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To: null and void

LOL! Does Brew Brothers have any available? There’s a new brew house off of Rock just south of the RR underpass on the left if you’re headed south. Used to be an old junk warehouse. Options. LOL!


39 posted on 10/17/2017 7:18:02 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: Beagle8U

Try the difference. Cows were not made to eat corn. All it is does is fatten them up.


40 posted on 10/17/2017 7:18:57 AM PDT by Snowybear
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