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House Dems propose bills to stop online ammo sales, ban mags
Guns.com ^ | 10/13/17 | Chris Eger

Posted on 10/14/2017 4:05:50 PM PDT by markomalley

House Democrats have introduced a number of new gun control measures in the wake of a deadly mass shooting in Las Vegas.

Among the proposals are HR.3962 to ban online ammunition sales, H.R. 4025 requiring gun dealers to report the sale of two or more rifles to the same person in a five-day period, and HR. 4052, which would ban magazines able to hold greater than 10 rounds.

“Several of my colleagues and I have introduced commonsense legislation that, if enacted, would reduce gun violence and the tragic impact it has on our communities,” said U.S. Rep. Bonnie Watson Coleman, the New Jersey Democrat sponsoring the Stop Online Ammunition Sales Act.

Coleman’s proposal is much like a state law approved last year by voters in California in the respect that it would require federally licensed ammo dealers to directly confirm the identity of those buying ammo over the Internet by verifying a photo I.D. in-person. Also, the measure would require the vendor to report any individual sales of more than 1,000 rounds in a five-day period to the U.S. Attorney General. Garnering 29 co-sponsors, all Democrat, the measure has been referred to the House Committee on the Judiciary.

Gun reporting

The Multiple Firearm Sales Reporting Modernization Act, sponsored by U.S. Rep. Norma Torres, D-Calf., would require FFLs to report the sale of two or more long guns to the same buyer within a five-day period to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives.

Currently, dealers must report multiple handgun sales while a 2011 rule that requires only dealers in Arizona, California, New Mexico and Texas report multiple rifle sales. Under the new proposal, it would be the law of the land.

“This bill is a long-overdue update,” said Torres. “Our law enforcement agencies need to know if anyone is stocking up on AR-15s and AK-47s.”

The measure, referred to the Judiciary Committee, has three co-sponsors including Nevada Democrat Dina Titus, whose district includes Las Vegas.

Magazine restrictions

Billed as the Keep Americans Safe Act, Connecticut’s Elizabeth Etsy would ban detachable magazines capable of holding more than 10 rounds. Backed by several gun control groups including the Brady Campaign and the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence, Esty contends it is needed for public safety.

“There is simply no good reason why sportsmen and women need more than 10 rounds in a magazine,” said Esty in a statement. “No sportsman or woman needs 30 rounds to kill a deer. It’s shameful that we protect our deer better than we protect our people.”

Referred to the Judiciary committee, Esty’s bill has 85 partisan supporters including virtually Nevada’s entire delegation to the House apart from U.S. Rep. Mark Amodei, a Republican whose district hails from the more conservative Northern part of the state including Reno and Carson City.

The bills join measures to ban bump stocks and other devices that can accelerate a gun’s rate of fire, mandates for smart gun use, expanded background check proposals and efforts to increase federal funding for gun crime research, all introduced in the past two weeks.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: ammunition; banglist; democrats; guns; secondamendment
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To: so_real

I actually think banning hunting would be constitutional.

Foolish, but constitutional.


21 posted on 10/14/2017 4:35:06 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Single payer is coming. Which kind do you like)
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To: so_real

I actually think banning hunting would be constitutional.

Foolish, but constitutional.


22 posted on 10/14/2017 4:36:09 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Single payer is coming. Which kind do you like)
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To: markomalley

If I’m not mistaken, the last assault weapon ban that was allowed to sunset didn’t do a darn thing to halt gun violence at the hands of the street thugs...........


23 posted on 10/14/2017 4:39:17 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: markomalley

Did the Vegas shooter ever make any large volume gun purchased? I keep hearing this story. Did he buy all of those guns at once?


24 posted on 10/14/2017 4:40:29 PM PDT by Spok
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To: markomalley
The horrific 1997 North Hollywood Shootout occurred right smack in the middle of the Assault Weapons Ban signed by Clinton. This law did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to stop the hundreds of rounds that were fired from illegally-modified weapons held by a couple who were career criminals.

When are Republicans going to stop playing defense on guns. They should be emphasizing responsible firearm training and getting people to learn more guns, instead of letting the Dems and media run with this sick narrative.

25 posted on 10/14/2017 4:42:52 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (We're right, you're wrong - that's the end of the argument.)
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To: markomalley

I have not seen any information about it but as of the appearance of this headline it is guaranteed there is a run on hi cap mags and people are downloading plans for hi cap mags. When are the Democrats going to try to license 3D printers? Printers are working fast to make trivialize restrictions on numbers, types, and capacities. Banning ammo sales will ramp up a black market in ammo and sales of loading equipment. Easily made plastic cartridges will developed and new easily acquired or made primers the same.


26 posted on 10/14/2017 4:44:14 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: markomalley

Where you purchase your ammo has no correlation to crime in any possible universe. These people are freaking idiots just begging for a cigarette and a blindfold.


27 posted on 10/14/2017 4:45:09 PM PDT by The Toll
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To: markomalley

HR 4025 is already on the books.


28 posted on 10/14/2017 4:48:18 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: markomalley

ANY Republican voting for ANY of these gun-ban proposals, any infringement of the 2nd Amendment at all — should be TARGETED for replacement at the next available primary with a decent pro-2A candidate.


29 posted on 10/14/2017 4:48:59 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Trump won; we got Gorsuch and a bit of the MAGA agenda. But now the Swamp is back in control.)
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To: Made In The USA

I thought NY said 7 max. And the judge said that’s stupid.


30 posted on 10/14/2017 4:50:57 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: markomalley

Republicans are in a majority. They should be able to scuttle this bill.


31 posted on 10/14/2017 5:12:38 PM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: markomalley

These idiots keep p!$$!ng into the wind, and then wonder why they keep getting wet.


32 posted on 10/14/2017 5:13:24 PM PDT by Hardastarboard (Three most annoying words on the internet - "Watch the Video")
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To: markomalley

33 posted on 10/14/2017 5:21:03 PM PDT by Bobalu (The NFL, Watching their demise is more fun than watching their games.)
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To: Bobalu

34 posted on 10/14/2017 5:22:12 PM PDT by Bobalu (The NFL, Watching their demise is more fun than watching their games.)
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To: Bobalu

35 posted on 10/14/2017 5:22:57 PM PDT by Bobalu (The NFL, Watching their demise is more fun than watching their games.)
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To: markomalley

Ban on 100-year-old technology bump for later...


36 posted on 10/14/2017 5:35:06 PM PDT by indthkr
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To: markomalley

The anti-Armed American, gun-grabbing NAZI crowd is on a roll. Still dancing in the blood of the victims in Las Vegas.


37 posted on 10/14/2017 5:45:20 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Has Sheila JACKSON LEE changed her name yet?)
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To: markomalley

They want it...
We Got it...
Their move.


38 posted on 10/14/2017 6:30:34 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: SkyDancer

That works okay if the hogs are operating solo and you manage to place your shots precisely. Sometimes they operate in groups - and attack in same. Sometimes a Saiga-12 12 gauge automatic shotgun with a 12 round drum magazine isn’t enough.

Feral hogs are the kind of game/vermin that actually *require* something approaching military grade hardware.


39 posted on 10/14/2017 6:39:01 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: markomalley

In honor of their bill that’s going nowhere, ordered 2k rounds of XM855 ammo - just because I can.


40 posted on 10/14/2017 6:39:40 PM PDT by GreyHoundSailor
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