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Catalonia - view from Madrid
personal correspondence ^ | 10.11.17 | self

Posted on 10/14/2017 7:55:42 AM PDT by bboop

The president of Catolonia has now taken back his illegal declaration of independence. If he didn't, he would have been arrested or the government would have sent in the national guard. Anyway, now he wants to negotiate over the next two weeks. Here in Madrid, everyone is annoyed with Catalan, there are Spanish flags hanging everywhere which mean that they want unity. Most people here think Catalan is acting very stupid. I don't usually contribute my opinion about it because I don't know enough about the history. But my roommate sais that Catalan is not perfect, they are not innocent either. I don't even want to know!


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: catalonia; madrid; spain
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My graphics designer has moved to Madrid (from California). I asked her about Catalonia, just what she's heard on the street.
1 posted on 10/14/2017 7:55:42 AM PDT by bboop
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I want less globalism. An independent country of Catalonia means less globalism, so I like the idea.


2 posted on 10/14/2017 7:58:38 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: bboop

Interesting


3 posted on 10/14/2017 7:59:31 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: central_va

When I was in Barcelona recently, everybody was flying the Catalonia Flag.


4 posted on 10/14/2017 7:59:57 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: bboop

Disorganized anarchists. Figures.


5 posted on 10/14/2017 8:06:38 AM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: dfwgator

I visited Barcelona in 2012. There was a protest in one of the squares. Lots of shouting; but no violence. Interesting enough, no Catalan flags but several Communist flags.


6 posted on 10/14/2017 8:11:10 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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The other thing is that every Thursday, the taxi drivers in Barcelona go on strike, it’s a real problem for tourists if they aren’t prepared.

Fortunately, we used the Hop-On/Hop-Off busses to get around.


7 posted on 10/14/2017 8:12:59 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: bboop

I wish our USA government would arrest the California Governor, and Attorney General for essentially advocating secession. Sanctuary State is a lawless State.


8 posted on 10/14/2017 8:41:44 AM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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These ministates are a lot like Ireland - profoundly unserious. They think they can cut defense spending to zero and divert it all to the welfare state. Imagine an EU full of such ministates. They’d soon be calling it Greater Turkey or Greater Russia.


9 posted on 10/14/2017 9:02:00 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: central_va

What does Catalonia have to do with globalism? Catalonia has never been independent and has always been part of Spain.


10 posted on 10/14/2017 9:10:17 AM PDT by The Cuban
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I walked the Camino Frances in 2015 and stayed in a small inn outside of Pamplona. Chatting with the innkeeper and his wife I mentioned that I was going to meet my family in Barcelona after my walk. The innkeeper, smiled and shook his head, “Barcelona,” he said,”Barcelona is not Spain.”


11 posted on 10/14/2017 9:30:14 AM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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The movement for the independence of Catalunya is a primarily a project of the rancid, lunatic left-wing fringe. It’s greatest champions are the likes of Anna Gabriel of the CUP and Junts Pel Si. If you Google her and these two organizations you’ll see what I mean.


12 posted on 10/14/2017 9:33:21 AM PDT by padubis
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To: Zhang Fei

A very wise observation, sir.


13 posted on 10/14/2017 9:44:49 AM PDT by padubis
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To: dfwgator

Subway system is okay if you don’t mind walking up and down multiple flights of stairs to change trains. Madrid has a much better system.


14 posted on 10/14/2017 11:08:54 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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We saw people lined up for the busses to take them for the airport at the Plaza de Catalunya. It was nuts.

We just simply jumped on the subway to go to the airport, the trick was to figure out the right tickets to get to go there, but it was fine.


15 posted on 10/14/2017 11:12:40 AM PDT by dfwgator
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Just how unserious is Ireland? The jet fixed wing component of its air force consists of less than a dozen gun-armed trainers. A ruthless invader could have Ireland conquered in days. Whereas Singapore, with roughly the same population and a similar economic profile, has 150 missile-armed fighter-bombers. One is kumbaya made flesh masquerading as a state, whereas the other makes no bones about not going down without a fight.


16 posted on 10/14/2017 11:21:03 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: padubis

Sounds like the Communists who took over the Spanish Republican faction are feeling their oats again. Of course, there are differences today - no Russian backing (yet) for the Commies. And it’s unclear what today’s castrated Spanish Commies would do with weapons.


17 posted on 10/14/2017 12:16:44 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: The Cuban
What does Catalonia have to do with globalism?

The funny thing is, smaller countries may mean more globalism. An independent Scotland would be more dependent on the EU. So would Catalonia.

Catalonia has never been independent and has always been part of Spain.

Well, ever since these two crazy kids got together:


18 posted on 10/14/2017 12:32:27 PM PDT by x
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Love those crazy kids lol (but technically it was part of Aragon before then)


19 posted on 10/14/2017 12:37:35 PM PDT by The Cuban
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To: The Cuban
Okay. Then we have to go back to these two swinging kids:


20 posted on 10/14/2017 12:46:46 PM PDT by x
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