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The climate-change fire alarm from Northern California
Los Angeles Times ^ | October 12, 2017 | by The Times Editorial Board

Posted on 10/12/2017 10:04:22 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

Big deadly fires are nothing new to California, particularly during fire season when the Santa Ana or Diablo winds blow hot and dry, making tinder out of trees and bushes that have been baking all summer long.

But the firestorm now raging through Northern California isn’t the typical wildfire.

We don’t yet know what started the fires in Northern California, but we have a good idea of what made them so destructive. Authorities blame a combination of factors.

Burning fossil fuels is not the only human activity that contributes to the destruction wrought by wildfires and hurricanes. So does the relentless march of humans to develop land in danger spots.

“These kinds of catastrophes have happened and they’ll continue to happen.” Gov. Jerry Brown observed at a news briefing Wednesday. “That’s the way it is with a warming climate, dry weather and reducing moisture.”

California is fortunate to have a governor who understands the perils of ignoring climate change and is aggressively pushing policies to mitigate its future harm. Unfortunately, that puts him at odds with a head-in-the-sand president who blithely disregards the obvious connection between the warming climate and the multiple federal disaster areas he’s been forced to declare in Texas, Florida, Puerto Rico and, now, California.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: climatechange; climatechangefraud; fakescience; globalism; globalwarming; hoax; humor; journalism; wildfires
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1 posted on 10/12/2017 10:04:22 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Re> We don’t yet know what started the fires in Northern California

They lie. Fires (most of them) are from High Powered Electric lines and bad maintenance (trimming tress). Climate had NOTHING to do with it but why let a disaster go to waste.

2 posted on 10/12/2017 10:08:00 AM PDT by IC Ken
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Another crock of dung from MOONBEAM.
California has been having these fire for thousands of years.
The only difference now is people are building in these areas, and they all want to keep it “NATURAL” right up to their front doors.


3 posted on 10/12/2017 10:09:28 AM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
the obvious connection

Not one of their models has predicted anything correctly. Not a week goes by where I do not read "We didn't understand (or failed to properly account for) soil, plants, snow reflection, clouds, oceans, etc. in our model and that's why it failed. But we tuned our model and it is now accurate."

They cannot point to one single "obvious connection." But, as a famous German once said "Make it a huge lie and repeat it often. They'll swallow anything."

4 posted on 10/12/2017 10:11:43 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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“The only difference now is people are building in these areas, and they all want to keep it “NATURAL” right up to their front doors.”

It is not an option, but required. It started out as an option but with everything else ‘progressive’ out there. Just ask the farmers in the valley.


5 posted on 10/12/2017 10:12:37 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Just curious. Does anyone know has this fire been more destructive than any of the several hurricanes?


6 posted on 10/12/2017 10:12:43 AM PDT by Leep (Less talk more ACTiON!)
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To: IC Ken

It’s been shown time and time again that man starts 90% of all wildfires.


7 posted on 10/12/2017 10:12:59 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: 5th MEB

Crunchy granola nutcase.


8 posted on 10/12/2017 10:13:44 AM PDT by Califreak (All Alinsky All The Time)
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To: Califreak

Burning fossil fuels is not the only human activity that contributes to the destruction wrought by wildfires and hurricanes.


Huh!?? Total disconnect with reality. It assumes something not in evidence.

These warmists are very good at “knowing” things that are not so.


9 posted on 10/12/2017 10:17:25 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“These kinds of catastrophes have happened and they’ll continue to happen.” Gov. Jerry Brown observed at a news briefing Wednesday. “That’s the way it is with a warming climate, dry weather and reducing moisture.”

Record rain falls in Northern California this past winter. Reservoirs filled and dams literally burst.


10 posted on 10/12/2017 10:19:23 AM PDT by Huskrrrr
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🤔. Sound like the same script from Vegas. "We don't have any answers at this time and the story may change."
11 posted on 10/12/2017 10:20:07 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

We had the heaviest rainfall totals in 100 years and Brown is blaming the dry weather caused by “climate change”. Right. And the fires were apparently started by underserviced power lines and transformers that could hold up to 70 mph winds.

If the state had spent more money clearing brush and doing fire prevention rather than spending it on welfare and education for illegal aliens this disaster could have been prevented.

Brown fiddled while California burned.


12 posted on 10/12/2017 10:20:45 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping list.)
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To: 5th MEB

the trees are not the problem.

It’s the Forest Service and EPA not allowing the clearing of brush on public, and if you have a creek...on private land.

The Grasses and brush beneath the tree canopy is what causes these disasters.

Or, turns a routine, small fire into 50,000 acre conflagration.


13 posted on 10/12/2017 10:20:56 AM PDT by Mariner (Pink Pussy Hats for the NFL)
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"They lie. Fires (most of them) are from High Powered Electric lines and bad maintenance (trimming tress). Climate had NOTHING to do with it but why let a disaster go to waste."

I’m glad you mentioned that. I remembered the following thread.

PG&E power lines linked to wine country fires (Tree hugger downside)

14 posted on 10/12/2017 10:23:04 AM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I can’t believe this disaster is already being politicized. Screw ‘em!


15 posted on 10/12/2017 10:23:58 AM PDT by Spok
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To: Huskrrrr

Hey Moonbeam, how about responsible resource management of forests, grasslands and streams/rivers to prevent and control wildfires? Ever heard of that?

Didn’t think so.


16 posted on 10/12/2017 10:24:32 AM PDT by RooRoobird20 ("Democrats haven't been this angry since Republicans freed the slaves.")
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To: IC Ken

They could be arson fires. 17 fires in 24 hours?!


17 posted on 10/12/2017 10:26:15 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (https://imgoat.com/uploads/645920e395/39513.gif)
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...who blithely disregards the obvious connection between the warming climate and the multiple federal disaster areas he’s been forced to declare in Texas, Florida, Puerto Rico and, now, California.

So what's the "obvious" connection?

18 posted on 10/12/2017 10:26:49 AM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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50-60 MPH winds and high tension lines don't always mix.

19 posted on 10/12/2017 10:27:50 AM PDT by IC Ken
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20 posted on 10/12/2017 10:28:24 AM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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