I took that to be the case from the beginning.
So they knew exactly which floor. Didn’t they say at the beginning they weren’t sure which floor? That they had to search for him & that’s what took so long?
Butts are being covered, legally...
I don’t have anything at all against the guard although for a Time the ATF thought he was in on it:
but when NBC lavishes Praise on this immigrant I get super super suspicious.
it’s like the left was handed Casino lemons and they’re trying to make immigration lemonade.
The maintenance man story came out the night of the shooting. Campos saved MM’s life. Why when I’m replying to the Vegas threads do I feel as tho I’m worked my on a Dr Who script with a thousand other writers?!
We’re there any people in the rooms across the hall?
First we heard the room was identified by the smoke alarm going off from all the gun powder smoke. Then we heard the unarmed security guard stopped the shooting by his presence on the hall. Then we heard the guard was there 6 minutes before the outside shooting and was himself shot when 200 rounds were fired through the door. (Did any of those rounds get through walls and doors into other rooms?) Now we get this maintenance worker in the mix. More and more questions every day: Did the hotel immediately call 911 when the guard was shot? How long did it take the cops to get there if they did make that call? Why did the cops wait 72 minutes (the last time period I heard) to enter the room? So many questions and so many disconnects. Also, why were these cops on 60 minutes when the story changed almost the next day? Sheriff is not looking so spectacular right now.
Too bad this comes from NBC news ... I won’t believe it from that source.
Get This !! That was 9:58 Pm . That means that the police has 6 minutes BEFORE any shots were fired. A street cop could have gotten there. Instead they dont get to the room for 1 hour and 16 minutes!!!During that time Paddock could have just kept shooting!! The swat guys had nothing to do with him stopping after 12 minutes. Let me ask you this . What were they doing while people were dying? They obviously intentionally lied about this but Campos and this maintenance man were not playing ball!!They has said Campos was wounded 18 minutes later!! How do you miss that? Why did the door have 200 holes in it? Paddock had to step into the hall to shoot Campos once in the leg. and to shoot at the maintenance man taking cover DOWN THE HALL. This gets worse and worse. And BTW , this is the bunch telling us there was no motive — it was valium? wow!!!
Don’t shoot the messenger.
I just saw it and posted it because it is yet another slice in an ever-changing timeline of events.
We could look at it as just another Las Benghazi—at this point, what difference does anything make????
Gunny G @ Planet WTF!
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I sure would like to see a consistent story line. This article has all kinds of new information and raises new questions….
It has been previously stated that Campos was injured when Paddock was shot through the door…Is this the same as “opening fire down a hallway”? I suppose it can be if the door is at the end of the hallway….
“When the first shooting started, I was kind of frozen for a second,” worker Stephen Schuck said Wednesday on “TODAY.” “He yelled at me, ‘Take cover! Take cover!’ If he yelled a second too late, I would have been shot.” So Campos and Schuck were together in the hallway when the shooting took place through the door? I wonder how far they were from room 32135? And where would they take cover?
“…as Paddock fired more than 200 bullets into the hall and nearby rooms at the beginning of his deadly rampage.” So we now know that it was more than 200 rounds? And the direction of these bullets were essentially down the hallway until one assumes they were stopped by the curved wall in front of the rooms?
“…and the release of audio of those initial shots.” Really? There’s audio? Who took the audio?
“Campos was alerted to the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino, where an alarm associated with a fire exit door went off.” Up to now, it has just been referred to as a ‘door ajar’ alarm. I think this is the first time that it has been stated to be the alarm associated with a fire exit door… Was this door open because of something that Paddock did to it? Up to now, it has been indicated that Paddock did something to block the doors from being opened….
How far was the fire exit door from Room 21135? And why did Schuck to the floor? Did he and Paddock go together to investigate the fire exit door alarm? Or was there some reason why one of them was there first and who was that?
“Schuck said the gunfire in the hallway was relentless and he “could feel them [the rounds] pass right behind my head.” He said he took cover until the shooting stopped and he could reach Campos, then he radioed for help.” So exactly where were Campos and Schuck when the firing was going on? Does the entry to each door have a bit of an offset from the hallway?
“A police SWAT team got to the 32nd floor at 10:17 p.m., and a minute later learned that the security guard was hit and where the shots were fired from.” One assumes that when Schuck radioed for help, he would have told them that Campos was injured…. but the police did not know that until they got to the 32nd floor?
How long before we learn of the second shooter on the fourth floor? Or was he on a dirt mound? Or maybe it was the rooftop of the AM/PM convenience store?
I can’t keep my second shooter theories straight...
Many of us sense a lack of forthcoming by the police and FBI and by experience we associate it with a government or political interest. I think we are overlooking a more powerful interest that would want to control the flow of information, namely the gaming industry. They have a financial interest to control the narrative so that customers feel safe and feel the casinos did everything they could to protect the people.
The last thing they want out is that, delays in contacting the police were caused by a protocol that required approvals by management or employees helped bring luggage containing guns to his room or employees looked the other way for his behavior because he was a VIP.
I believe that they could have a culture that tries to keep criminal events within their own 4 walls so that the public is not aware. Who knows. Maybe reports to police were delayed on the shooting of the guard because protocol calls for contacting certain casino officials before making a report to police that could become public and cost them future business.
Also, they would have policies and practices to keep lid on all sorts of mishaps , attacks etc from public to protect their business. Even the police and local press would have adopted this attitude over time.
So I believe that the culture in Las Vegas would naturally be to down play all criminal incidents and that same culture is what we are sensing about potential cover-up.
I’m really sick of people saying the LVPD did not get to the scene for 72 minutes or whatever. There were officers on the 32nd floor within 20 minutes of the first shots.
If you want to squabble about why they waited an hour to actually breach the door (even though all of the shooting had stopped), that’s fine.
But there were police on the scene relatively quickly considering all of the factors.
Minimum wage maintenance man, but to NBC he was a building engineer.
Was Weinstein involved too?