Posted on 10/11/2017 10:47:05 AM PDT by DBG8489
So according to this story, a maintenance worker named Stephen Schuck was walking down the hall when the first shots came flying down the hallway. And the security guard Campos saved *his* life by screaming for him to "take cover."
At which point, he radioed to the hotel dispatch that someone was shooting with an automatic rifle on the 32nd floor.
So now we find out that the hotel knew *before* anyone fired on the crowd that there was an active shooter on the 32nd floor...
Instead they dont get to the room for 1 hour and 16 minutes!!!
BSBSBSBSBSBSBS
I was an ME in a hotel after I retired. The cops said the security guard was checking on an open room door alert which I wondered about. This guy said it was about a fire door that wasn’t latched which makes more sense.
It’s a straight shot down a very long hallway ending at the elevator. There are pillars on either side of the run along the way.
We could look at it as just another Las Benghazi—at this point, what difference does anything make????
Gunny G @ Planet WTF!
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The question is, what was the time of the initial 911 call and where did it come from? I have a really hard time believing that this guy sends 200 rounds downrange and the first 911 call comes in 6 mins later. That dog won’t hunt.
“How is it that those 200 bullets fired through his door didnt penetrate any other rooms or walls and injured no one else?”
It’s possible most of them fragmented after striking a few layers of drywall, studs, conduit, etc. a .223 bullet is doing about 300,000 rpm leaving the muzzle. Doesn’t take much for them to fly apart, especially if they’re cheaply made.
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I wonder if when the shooter put the metal plate and screws into the stairway door if that messed up the sensor showing the door was open. Although I wouldn't think it would. Unless he accidental drilled into the wiring and broke the circuit. (Murphy's Law and all).
He was shooting down the hall from inside the door? If you shoot a car engine with a .223/.557 it will penetrate the block of that engine. I have a friend who was a sniper. He told me they ran a demonstration with an AR 15 at 50 feet and it went through 27 panels of sheet rock . Now I assume that door was pretty solid but you will never convince me that the bullets didn’t enter the next room with lethal force.
See post 23. There are both layout photos and real time photos taken by LE.
No one has EVER said that.
“If you shoot a car engine with a .223/.557 it will penetrate the block of that engine”
No, they won’t. Not even close.
I’ve done it. Go through the radiator, yes. The block, no frigging way.
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What, the BS or the comment I copied directly from the poster I was replying to?
It looks like there are about 24 rooms on that floor in that wing. Plus the people above and below that would have heard the shots. Although I bet a lot of them (like at the concert) could have thought it was fireworks or something.
I had a buddy that went to Disneyland with his fiance, and stayed at one of the hotels in the park. He said he heard a bunch of shooting right outside - he pushed is wife under the bed and dialed 911.
“Um sir - it’s okay - it’s just the nightly fireworks at 10pm at the park.”
Whatever you do......don’t blink.
Not only that, but if the guard was shot six minutes before Paddock started shooting at the crowd, what triggered Paddock to kill himself? There’s no mention of anyone else in the hallway until SWAT a long time later? Why didn’t he keep shooting, working the next thousand rounds that the police said he had? There’s a pretty big logical hole here . . .
Don’t get it...maintenance guy was 1/3 way down hallway when shots began and campos was hiding in a doorway already injured?
“I was about a third of the way down the hallway and I started to hear shots go off,” he told TODAY in an exclusive interview Wednesday.
Schuck then saw hotel security guard, Jesus Campos, stick out his head from a doorway.
“He yelled at me to take cover, and as soon as I started to go to a door to my left, the rounds started coming down the hallway,” Shuck said. “I could feel them pass right behind my head. Something hit me in the back and I took cover.”
“I tried to think, how I could get to Jesus because I could that see he was shot in the leg...”
https://www.today.com/news/las-vegas-hotel-workers-took-cover-hallway-after-gunman-opened-t117342
Funny thing is, and maybe I’m wrong, but I haven’t heard from ONE person who was staying on the same floor as the shooter. Did I miss that?
I’ve put plenty of .223 rounds downrange. They aren’t penetrating an engine block. .50 cal yeah definitely, but not a .223 round. Now they absolutely would enter adjacent rooms though.
True, but there’s a huge acoustic difference.
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