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Las Vegas gunman shot security guard a full six minutes before opening fire
LA Times ^ | October 9, 2017 | Matt Pearce et al

Posted on 10/09/2017 7:13:31 PM PDT by ALASKA

Police have dramatically changed their account of how the Las Vegas massacre began on Oct. 1, revealing Monday that the gunman shot a hotel security guard six minutes before opening fire on a country music concert — raising new questions about why police weren’t able to pinpoint the gunman’s location sooner.

Officials had previously said that gunman Stephen Paddock, 64, of Mesquite, Nev., shot Mandalay Bay security guard Jesus Campos after Paddock had unleashed his deadly volley at the Route 91 Harvest festival, an assault that began at 10:05 p.m. and left 58 people dead, with hundreds more injured.

They had credited Campos, who was shot in the leg, with stopping the 10-minute assault on the concert crowd by turning the gunman’s attention to the hotel hallway, where Campos was checking an alert for an open door in another guest’s room.

But Clark County Sheriff Joe Lombardo said Monday that Paddock shot Campos before his mass shooting — at 9:59 p.m. — and they now don’t know why Paddock stopped his attack on the crowd.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bumpstock; camposmotive; jesuscampos; lasvegas; lvinvestigation; lvmassacre; paddocktimeline; shooter; stephenpaddock; witnesssuicide
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To: Blue Highway

OVer the weekend there was an article which said that the police engaged Paddock when they first went to Campos’ aid.

Now, it is true that we are hearing conflicting information due to the amount of sources.

Yesterday’s change in the timeline is a game changer. Some of us have doubted the “hero security guard story” from the beginning.

We need to see a moment to moment timeline that is consistent with fact and logic.


181 posted on 10/10/2017 5:19:56 AM PDT by exit82 (The opposition has already been Trumped!)
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To: All

When was Paddocks time of death. Not sure how accurate the coroner can be, but this seems to be crucial information.


182 posted on 10/10/2017 5:55:44 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Blue Highway

Well, that video will is probably with the other secret squirrel/insurance gag order stuff. Once the investigation is done, we can FOIA it.


183 posted on 10/10/2017 6:05:29 AM PDT by blu (If you don't read the story at the link, don't comment. (Except for Laz...))
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To: Blue Highway

Oh PS-re your name. Did you read that book?


184 posted on 10/10/2017 6:08:22 AM PDT by blu (If you don't read the story at the link, don't comment. (Except for Laz...))
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To: blu

No I like Neil Diamond; especially that song.


185 posted on 10/10/2017 6:25:22 AM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: UCANSEE2

Crazy stuff going on the shadows.


186 posted on 10/10/2017 6:55:37 AM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: House Atreides

I went to that website. Cannot find the article you mention.


187 posted on 10/10/2017 7:05:34 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: House Atreides

Never mind. I found it on PAGE 2.


188 posted on 10/10/2017 7:13:17 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: BenLurkin

Considering that the only real scenario we’ve been given by the PO-PO was dead wrong, and within a day they kept pushing this scenario, it’s time for new management.

McCabe has his nasty fingerprints all over this.


189 posted on 10/10/2017 7:30:35 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

At this point why should we believe their 6 minute story?

How do we know it wasn’t 45 minutes before the shooting started? (when the woman in the crowd was yelling about dying) Maybe the guy that got shot called her and told her about a shooter? Who knows?

Have we had any real proof of when the windows were broken?

Has the yelling woman in the crowd been interviewed?


190 posted on 10/10/2017 7:40:50 AM PDT by Ms Mable
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To: kelly4c
I was curious about this security guard from the beginning. Not saying he did anything wrong But....Wanted to hear his story directly from him


Yes, and he was very conspicuous by his absence. The police officer who was shot was on Hannity, etc. and hailed (rightfully so) as a hero. But nothing at all from the hotel security who stopped it all, and nothing for days.

I have faith in the integrity of the sheriff's dept., local PD., but this was really bad.

If they wanted to encourage conspiracy thinking, they are on the right track.

191 posted on 10/10/2017 7:43:15 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: Ms Mable

You have a valid point.

Honestly at this time we have nothing, so any point is valid, even the ISIS/CIA/NSA/CHINA/IRAN/Hillary/#DEEPSTATE/NORK/RUSSIA/BLM/Antifa/IRAN connection scenario’s.


192 posted on 10/10/2017 7:47:18 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Has the woman yelling to the people in the crowd been identified? Has anyone interviewed her?

Does she know the guard that was shot?


193 posted on 10/10/2017 7:51:51 AM PDT by Ms Mable
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Looks like the same "officials" who got to the bottom of TWA 800 are working on this one now.
194 posted on 10/10/2017 8:42:12 AM PDT by skimbell
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To: Guenevere

I take everything I hear with a grain of salt.

First, it doesn’t make sense to me that the shooter would pump 200 rounds into the door over five minutes before firing outside.

Second, those shots would have been going into the next room or the hall. All sorts of people would have heard it.

Third, you wouldn’t have had just a single wound to the security officer.

Fourth, you would have tipped off your location.

Fifth, you’d have given the police a five minute jump on you.

This is not making sense, but I have never expected it to.


195 posted on 10/10/2017 8:52:30 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (John McBane is the turd in the national punch-bowl.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Jim, my thought would be various sources.

The police scanner record of the event.

Media observations.

The live action and telephone captures at the event. Each are time tagged.

Then you have the officers reports, hotel staff reports, eye witnesses...

Perhaps someone else has a much better answer.


196 posted on 10/10/2017 8:56:03 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (John McBane is the turd in the national punch-bowl.)
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To: ALASKA

A maintenance worker on the 32nd floor has at times been mentioned in association with the security guard. Connected with the room or just coincidental?


197 posted on 10/10/2017 9:24:38 AM PDT by Ozark Tom
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To: Blue Highway

What actually occured was that the Terrorist was screwing the exit door shut with his drills and bits.That set off amn “open door sensor on the 32nd floor so the security officer comes up as standard policy to check why.
Two things now seem clear. 1. Six minutes prior to the terrorist massacre there was irrefutable evident that the shooter was on the 32nd floor. 2. The security guard was wounded on the 32nd floor and radio his location to the main security office.( they absolutely have lapel radios.
THat means that the sheriff had 1 hour and 16 minutes to get in there and in fact had 6 minutes to stop the shooting!!


198 posted on 10/10/2017 9:32:47 AM PDT by raiderboy ( "...if we have to close down our government, we’re building that wall.”)
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To: Ms Mable

That would be a viable explanation for her depending on when she started her warnings.

The guy fired 200 rds through the door at the bellhop. That would take a little while.


199 posted on 10/10/2017 9:37:40 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: DOGHEAD

Your point is well taken . My understanding is that the security guard ( why is he being kept quiet?) confronted the terrorist at the EXIT DOOR in the hall way and shoots him in the leg while he drilled the door to the door frame. Why did he soot 200 rounds out his room door? I think that may be a lie. If the swat guys had been shot at they would be bragging about it. What the hell was going on here.??The guard takes 200 rounds? I want this guy on tv ASAP!!


200 posted on 10/10/2017 9:39:03 AM PDT by raiderboy ( "...if we have to close down our government, we’re building that wall.”)
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