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To: Freedom56v2
To make a strategic firebreak, which is a requirement for scientific forestry, the width between vineyard rows has to be fairly wide...otherwise the fire jumps the gaps.

You can compare California's fire sizes to nearby Oregon, Mexico, Arizona, and Nevada.

You can compare those fire sizes to states that practice scientific forestry.

...or you can just act hurt, lash out, and Change nothing.

587 posted on 10/13/2017 11:09:55 PM PDT by Southack (The one thing preppers need from the 1st World? http://tinyurl.com/ktfwljc .)
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To: Southack

I am not hurt nor am I lashing out...Frankly, I feel eh disappointed/sad...You just don’t seem to fully understand what people are going through or the purpose of the thread. It is about concern and providing support and news for those who have family or live in the area, or just care about the area...I put it up last Monday afternoon because there were none in Breaking News at the time, and I felt that people would want/need to know news and have a place to provide support here at FR. That is the gist of the majority of the posts here.

Sadly your initial post and this one here remind me of what someone said to me about my mom when she passed away after a long bout with lung cancer...”Oh she shouldn’t have smoked.”...They did not know if she smoked, they did not ask if she had smoked. They offered no support...They just stated facts as they saw them and then walked away. I did not ask them for their comment either...

So, yeah, it would have been really nice if you would have had the courtesy to offer up your expertise as a suggestion and perhaps offer support and concern rather than some dry “fact” about what California does not do—and perhaps implying it is the Californians’ fault~not needed here during this fire....

Would have been nice if you had provided links to your expertise, since you did not post as opinion but rather fact...and links are especially nice since you don’t list a PhD in Forestry...

Would have been nice since you did not post a link to indicate just how you know what California does or does not do...Actually they do cut trees as a firebreak...similar to a controlled burn...I would be happy to provide link:

http://www.wsj.com/video/to-prevent-wildfires-california-cuts-down-trees/34C5452D-1963-4DE2-B7A9-8209A1A881BC.html

I did not make it up about the vineyards acting as a natural firebreak...regardless of your stating they lack the specifications to count...they actually did act as a firebreak...Again, here is a link:

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-vineyards-firebreak-20171012-story.html

Among the many theories as to the cause of this particular fire (the worst in their history), some have said that one contributor may be that due to the very wet winter (a record rain), there was a lot of new growth that then dried out and made great tinder for fires...Look at my post of a diagram an actual Californian posted...Oh speaking of Californians, how many times have you been to Sonoma?

As I said, several fires started by town...started all at once. Odd...Not sure your firebreaks and “scientific forestry” would have done much in a town...Oh and there were 70 mph winds and it is the driest month for that area.

I cannot speak of Mexico or Oregon...but Arizona has had some huge fires.

As far as change goes, is this really the time? People are are living in evac centers after fleeing with close on their back...People are worried about friends and family who are missing...450+ still missing :( People are worried about looting and what their homes are going to be like when they return. A Freeper posted they were given a sandwich by a patrolman today—first real food they had eaten since fires started on Sunday!!...Do you think they want to hear about “Scientific Forestry” right now? More likely that they would like to know that people are concerned, people are donating to the various groups that have been posted, and most importantly that people are keeping them in their thoughts and prayers.


590 posted on 10/14/2017 12:30:40 AM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Freeper formerly known as bushwon ;))
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