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Las Vegas sheriff: Mass killer led a 'secret life' before attack
Fox News ^ | Oct. 05, 2017

Posted on 10/05/2017 5:10:41 AM PDT by Hadean

The Las Vegas gunman behind the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history spent decades stockpiling guns and living a “secret life” that investigators may never be able to fully understand, police say.

Clark County, Nev., Sheriff Joseph Lombardo said Wednesday that it was only logical to “make the assumption” that Stephen Paddock had “some help at some point” in pulling off Sunday's massacre.

As evidence, Lombardo pointed to gunman Paddock’s huge arsenal, explosive materials found in his car and his meticulous planning.

“What we know is Stephen Paddock is a man who spent decades acquiring weapons and ammo and living a secret life, much of which will never be fully understood,” the sheriff said.

Authorities also revealed that they believe Paddock had an escape plan, even though he turned the gun on himself as police closed in on his luxury suite at the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino.

Analyzing Paddock's computer, cellphone and other electronic devices, Investigators have found no obvious ideological motive, no clear connection to extremists or activist groups or outward display of mental illness, The Associated Press reported.

Lombardo said Paddock had 1,600 rounds of ammunition and several containers of an explosive commonly used in target shooting that totaled 50 pounds in his car. But it wasn't clear what, if anything, Paddock planned with the explosives, he said.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: lasvegas; lvmassacre; paddock; tannerite
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To: PLMerite

But the reason for the delay in entering the room was because Paddock had stopped firing and they were clearing several floors of hotel guests before explosively breaching the door. If Paddock had continued to fire, I’m sure they would have just knocked the door down and gone in shooting.

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They didn’t clear the room directly below him.

“Kansas man was in the hotel room right below the Vegas shooter during the massacre”.

http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article177047656.html


61 posted on 10/05/2017 6:32:51 AM PDT by Raebie
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To: TexasGunLover

Obviously a disintergrater / re-intergrater like Jack Harkness had was used.


62 posted on 10/05/2017 6:33:15 AM PDT by wally_bert (I didn't get where I am today by selling ice cream tasting of bookends, pumice stone & West Germany)
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To: mazda77

Blow it out your ass jerk.


63 posted on 10/05/2017 6:38:04 AM PDT by subterfuge (Save the monuments!!)
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To: oh8eleven
I think he wanted to create a real holocaust potentially killing thousands and thousands ... but for some reason(s) he cut the plan short.

I think in his psychopathic dreams, he had a possibility of escaping from the room. If that happened, he dreamed of a second, different attack in the chaos from his first attack. I'm glad we didn't get to find out what that plan was. We should all thank the security guard who showed up at his door.

64 posted on 10/05/2017 6:42:14 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: exnavy
"I think you just touched on motive, a leftie trying to bring about gun control/ confiscation."

That's the same song I've been singing for the past few days... I too believe he was a big time gun control advocate...

65 posted on 10/05/2017 6:43:26 AM PDT by unread (Joe McCarthy was right.......)
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To: Raebie
"He’s right. “We may never know”. They already do."

And yet WE are the boss and THEY work for us.

66 posted on 10/05/2017 6:43:42 AM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: Pollster1

He rented the adjoining room a used that location to shoot at the fuel tanks. It would not have been a good location to use to shoot at the concert goers.


67 posted on 10/05/2017 6:46:00 AM PDT by redangus (actually hit her?)
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To: Hadean
"Mass killer led a 'secret life' before attack"

More like a "life with secrets" - that we're definitely known to some people, considering that he reportedly passed government background investigations in some his dealings.
68 posted on 10/05/2017 6:47:50 AM PDT by indthkr
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

4chan/pol is a very strange place and grouping of people but apparently they found records for the shooter’s private plane.

Lots of boring detail but the upshot is that the FAA database differs from an independent db called flightaware.

The flightaware listings indicate links to a federal intelligence contractor.

But the FAA info is for another aircraft altogether.

Pol’s theory is that the FAA info was changed/scrubbed to eliminate this link but they seemed unaware of the independent database.

Fishy...


69 posted on 10/05/2017 6:49:12 AM PDT by relictele
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To: Hadean

You knew that would make headlines. All of us have “secret” lives. Most of us don’t realize what little bits of our lives could be twisted in any way the feds and msm want. Buying guns legally, with permits, background checks, paper trails, cameras in every gun store is far from secret. Not having a social media presence is not leading a secret life. Not being friendly with neighbors is not leading a secret life.

If he was meeting in smoky back rooms with CIA agents or ISIS leaders, then that is leading a secret life but we have no proof of that and never will know.


70 posted on 10/05/2017 6:51:54 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: subterfuge

Yea, that answers it now, doesn’t it?


71 posted on 10/05/2017 6:53:38 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: Heavyrunner
he made a point of using a “bump stock” which probably ultimately lowered the death toll as if to put a novelty shooting item into the headlines.

I agree on that point. Give any capable (but psychopathic) shooter an AR-10 with good optics and a huge stack of magazines overlooking a concert from his vantage point, and there would be a lot more dead in ten minutes. He wanted the "rock and roll" and the fear of full auto more than he wanted a body count. The bump stocks probably saved a lot of lives compared to what would have happened with the same crazy man but aimed fire.

72 posted on 10/05/2017 6:53:48 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: Hadean

[several containers of an explosive commonly used in target shooting]

?


73 posted on 10/05/2017 6:55:46 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (Ignorance is reparable, stupid is forever)
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To: Hadean
Gosh - how many FReepers can be described as "spending decades gathering firearms and amassing thousands of rounds of ammo?

For every nut-job there's thousands who fit that description with no intent of ever harming another human being except in self-defense - and most of us hope that never becomes necessary....

74 posted on 10/05/2017 6:56:08 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Hadean

“....1,600 rounds of ammunition”

Meh, no biggy I see people expend that much at the range on a fairly regular basis.


75 posted on 10/05/2017 6:57:18 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Not my circus. Not my monkeys.)
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To: AppyPappy

No way did he think he would escape. The cameras were there so he could wipe out cops trapped in a tight hallway.

He couldn’t have been so stupid not to realize cops would find him within moments. Vegas is lit up like broad daylight 24/7. The 32nd floor of the giant Mandalay hotel is hardly the back hilly woods in the middle of nowhere on a moonless night.


76 posted on 10/05/2017 6:58:44 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: AppyPappy

I read about that a couple of days ago. Sorry. Don’t remember where.

Someone has it, now, don’t they.


77 posted on 10/05/2017 7:00:23 AM PDT by combat_boots (God bless Israel and all who protect and defend her! Merry Christmas! In God We Trust! 4c)
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To: bgill

He could have gotten under the table cloth on the cart right outside his room-if he had inside help.

Straight out of the movies.


78 posted on 10/05/2017 7:01:41 AM PDT by combat_boots (God bless Israel and all who protect and defend her! Merry Christmas! In God We Trust! 4c)
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To: mazda77

I believe the families of the victims would PREFER the lame stream media use the correct term to describe the MURDERER of their loved ones instead of the soft, less “offensive” term “gunman.” It isn’t semantics. Words have meaning. Deal with it.


79 posted on 10/05/2017 7:10:22 AM PDT by subterfuge (Save the monuments!!)
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To: Pollster1
"I agree on that point. Give any capable (but psychopathic) shooter an AR-10 with good optics and a huge stack of magazines overlooking a concert from his vantage point, and there would be a lot more dead in ten minutes."

This is an excellent point. A point the media and those who know nothing about guns would never accept but any practiced shooter knows is absolutely true. At the range I can hit a plate sized target at 400 yards 100 times easily in 10 minutes. That's only 5 magazines for an AR-10 (Or, I could before the boating accident). If one was shooting into 20K people herded together like cattle it would be much easier.

80 posted on 10/05/2017 7:25:12 AM PDT by circlecity
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