Posted on 10/03/2017 1:56:05 PM PDT by OneVike
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Second Shooter In Mandalay Bay Hotel in Vegas
I found all this as I surfed the web about the shooting in Vegas. Is it just me, or does all this news of a single shooter seem just too damn convenient, or what? I do know that dead men tell no tales.
Two separate videos show flashes that could be muzzle flashes from another automatic weapon on a lower floor of the Mandalay Bay Hotel. In another news report, an Australian man staying in the room next to Paddock, says that there were multiple shooters involved in a co-ordinated attack, and the mainstream media of a “lone wolf” gunman operating without a motive is a lie.
You tell me what you see.
An Australian man who was staying in the room next to the shooter in the Mandalay Bay has confirmed he witnessed multiple gunmen involved in the Las Vegas attack.
“There were multiple people dead and multiple shooters. I was just hiding waiting for police to come get us. I got outside safely and was hiding in bushes,” Brian Hodge told Australia’s Courier-Mail.
Mr. Hodge, who was staying in room 32134, next door to Stephen Paddock in room 32135, also provided important information when he revealed that a security guard was killed by police.
“My floor is a crime scene. They killed a security guard on my floor.”
“The man that they [security] were chasing was wearing a security jacket like them,” she said.
Mr Hodge’s eyewitness report of multiple gunmen and a dead security guard, and with Ms Miller’s report of a security guard being chased by authorities, suggest that the mainstream media narrative of the “lone wolf” gunman is not the truth.
But there weren’t any other broken windows except those on the 32nd floor. Now, I’m ready for your next stupid answer.
It is highly possible she was just a nutcase and it was a huge coincidence that the shooting started right after she said it.
The thing is the main lady that was talking about it in the interview was pretty sure she was just removed by security and not detained/questioned. I have a problem with that, with the crazy things that happen now I would hope they would hold and seriously question people like that to make sure there is not a real danger.
The only statement I have heard from security is they will not answer questions because there is an ongoing investigation and they direct all questions to LVPD.
If they had held her and questioned her then they likely would have still had her detained when the shooting started so it would have been easier to question her later to make darn sure she wasn’t involved or why she thought those people were going to get killed.
The interview I saw was fairly soon after I think, reporters were interviewing random people because they knew it was too early to get anything from Hotel or police. One woman basically told the story but the other people around her were agreeing with what she said happened.
They did tell the reporter that it did not really seem as though the woman was warning them- they said she just stated it, more like a taunt but not talking rude or nasty just saying to them they were going to die, they were all going to die.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-03/was-there-second-shooter-vegas
This has all three videos of muzzle flash. Still no evidence of flashes up top-—don’t know why. I don’t doubt Paddock was shooting from there at all. Just find it odd that we have no muzzle flash. NONE.
First I’ve heard of the ventilation strips. Could be very big.
One of my Facebook friends posted an image of his voter registration. He’s apparently registered in Palm Beach County, FL — which means that even though he’s dead, he can still vote.
Here is a video tour of the very same room that the shooter used, taken by another person a year earlier.
Floor to ceiling glass, no 'ventilation strips.'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Skcuvo9Z9BY
Here's another one the same room:
Wish my investments grew like this tale. The last report had it at $100 grand...
Evil always defies common sense and logic
You didn’t read the later post where I confirmed that they just used the vents on the lower 5 or 6 stories that have the vents. From what I learned no towers use them in upper levels.
No, I don’t. The FBI is broken and even Trump can’t fix it in 9 months.
But never fear they(the FBI) have taken control of everything in the hotel room except for the “shooter’s” body. The Clark County Coroner would not discuss his body last night at a presser.
According to the Daily Mail, two of the guns had a flash suppressor: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4946740/Bodycam-footage-shows-cops-advancing-Las-Vegas-killer.html (scroll down about 2/3rds of the article).
Good info. I BTW never doubted Paddock was “a” shooter. I just think tbere js evidence of a second shooter.
Does anyone know what Rafael Cruz has been up to?
Given your evidence of flash suppressors-—and let’s assume they were used-—here is my rough thesis on what happened:
There was a second shooter at or about the 6th floor. His purpose was to distract the police for some time while Paddock did the bulk of the firing. That’s why I think the reports of shots from this area stopped fairly early.
(I have seen no info on whether the police searched these floors).
NOTE: virtually ALL of the first police scanner reports were “halfway up” or “around the 15th floor” and all the videos are of about the 6th floor.
This would make perfect sense if Paddock, as you suggest, was using flash suppressors and the “other shooter” wasn’t. He WANTED to be seen, at least initially. But apparently he had a getaway. We have no reports of lower floor shooting after about 45 minutes.
So IF there was someone else, I think his job was pure distraction for maximum carnage effect, and he wasn’t to get captured. Was Paddock? Almost certainly, given that he had cameras outside in the hall, so he knew he couldn’t escape.
Moreover, this destroys the notion that he was an “FBI guy in a gun-selling sting operation that went bad.” That’s silly. The last thing ISIS would do in such an op would start shooting-—they’d run.
The flash suppressors also make a powerful statement: Paddock, at least at first, did not WANT to be located. Why make it hard for cops if you were “making a statement?” Why not show them exactly where you were?
The final question is this: was there supposed to be a phase three? (Low level distraction, Paddock and . . .) Was there to be an anfo bomb someplace after first responders showed up . . . that chickened out? Or got caught in traffic?
Hmmm...... there was no broken glass on floors below the 32nd
Rush just played clip of sheriff, which I had not heard, saying “we have the suspect IN CUSTODY.” Wait, Paddock is dead. Who is in custody? The shooter from the 6th floor?
LS was talking about this, too, but I presume by now he understands the truth of the matter...
Early police reports were all over the map. Please don't take one radio report as proof of a second shooter.
This is analysis of radio traffic that night by someone who does active response training:
Multiple False Alarms: At 14:45 an officer airs that there are three shooters and that there are additional shooters inside the concert venue. Later, other officers incorrectly report numerous shooting scenes outside the venue. Those sites were where the injured people from inside the concert facility ended up after evacuation. Additional reports of shots fired at the front desk of a different casino came at the 59 minute mark. At 1:06 dispatch reported multiple active shooters at the Tropicana Hotel. Later, there were erroneous reports of shots fired at two different locations inside the New Your New York casino.
“How did they shoot thru the glass?”
They used a bump silencer.
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