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Based on the Early Reports, the Las Vegas Shooting Is Very, Very Strange
National Review ^ | 10-2-2017 | DAVID FRENCH

Posted on 10/03/2017 3:31:00 AM PDT by servo1969

As virtually everyone has noted from the abundant video footage of the incident, it certainly sounds as if the shooter used either fully-automatic weapons or semi-automatic weapons modified (through, for example, a bump fire stock) to closely simulate automatic fire. Moreover, the police are reporting that he had “more than 10 rifles.” He apparently rented his corner room for days and may have even set up cameras to detect when police were approaching. That’s all strange enough, but it’s even more unusual when you consider that his own family apparently didn’t know that he maintained a stockpile of guns.

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Put all this together, and the shooting is flat-out bizarre. It’s significantly different from virtually any other mass shooting in U.S. history. If the weapons were fully automatic, then he likely would have spent immense sums of money to obtain them legally, jumping through extensive legal hoops.

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So, a person who’s “not a gun guy” has either expended untold thousands of dollars to legally purchase fully-automatic weapons, somehow found them on the black market, or purchased and substantially modified multiple semi-automatic weapons — and did so with enough competence to create a sustained rate of fire. This same person also spent substantial sums purchasing just the right hotel room to maximize casualties.

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Given the firepower and the packed mass of people, it’s easy to see how the casualty count was so high, even firing from an extreme range (by the standards of mass shootings.) This was the University of Texas tower attack on steroids, conducted out of nowhere, with meticulous planning and at great expense, from a person who doesn’t seem to fit any normal profile of a mass shooter. There is much we have yet to learn, but for now, this is one of the most chilling and mysterious events I’ve ever seen.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ammoniumnitrate; banglist; casino; casinoplots; lasvegas; lasvegascell; paddock; stephenpaddock
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To: ilovesarah2012

“Explosives” defined by the feds and/or journalists are anything from the H-bomb to Drain-o under the bathroom sink. I’ve yet to hear exactly what they were or weren’t. But, hey, it makes for great headlines.


341 posted on 10/03/2017 9:57:24 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: ctdonath2

Dina Titus, (D) House of Representative for Las Vegas, said yesterday in an interview that he was winning at the tables. And said housekeeping had been in and out of his room and reported nothing out of the ordinary.

A hardcore gambler wouldn’t interrupt a winning streak.


342 posted on 10/03/2017 10:01:58 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: nclaurel

While I don’t believe for a minute he was ISIS, it would be great for Trump (and the whole country) if he were.


343 posted on 10/03/2017 10:03:09 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: bgill

“Once the building had been swept for booby traps, heavily armed officers discovered 19 firearms, thousands of rounds of ammunition and several pounds of the powder explosive tannerite.

In his car they also found a quantity of ammonium nitrate, a fertiliser that can be used to create a powerful explosive.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/10/03/police-robots-find-explosives-guns-ammunition-las-vegas-shooter/


344 posted on 10/03/2017 10:07:38 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: nclaurel
I read Magglepuss comments to not be a denial that something happened at SH but that we have not been given the full and honest story. At my ripe old age I can’t remember the last time the government was fully honest about anything.

Nor do I believe, but that's why you can't rely on single sources for information. The many resources indicate that SH was exactly what the common explanation seems to point towards.
345 posted on 10/03/2017 10:14:42 AM PDT by TexasGunLover ("Either you're with us or you're with the terrorists."-- President George W. Bush)
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To: TexasGunLover

From your link - “Paddock had 34 guns – including 23 packed into the hotel room.”

So, it’s more than tripled the number first reported. And another 50 at his home. Why bring 34 for one person? Heck, might as well bring the other 50 along as well. Why leave 23 packed? Maybe they’ll find a few dozen more in his unlocked car like they did with Lanza. Oh, yeah, there apparently is no mention of a train, plane or automobile. Ok, so I read one, just one, report saying he flew in. Flew in with all that??? Maybe he was beamed down by aliens or walked that 80 miles from home with all that in his Batman backpack.

Dina Titus, (D) House of Representative for Las Vegas, said yesterday in an interview that he was winning at the tables. And said housekeeping had been in and out of his room and reported nothing out of the ordinary.


346 posted on 10/03/2017 10:26:59 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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347 posted on 10/03/2017 10:55:27 AM PDT by bushpilot2
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To: bgill

No gambling issues eliminates that motive, but doesn’t eliminate all motives.

Housekeeping isn’t going to care about a pile of luggage. It’s Vegas, people travel, people have reasons, it’s a big room, he’s there for days.

He was there for a purpose, on a schedule. Not gonna break that schedule, not using ~$20,000 of equipment, just because he’s having a decent run.


348 posted on 10/03/2017 10:56:00 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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To: Biggirl

Time will tell...


349 posted on 10/03/2017 10:56:38 AM PDT by smileyface (Things looking up in RED PA! I love President Trump!)
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To: ilovesarah2012
In his car they also found a quantity of ammonium nitrate, a fertiliser that can be used to create a powerful explosive.

We have to go all the way to England to find this out. OK, his car was at the house so we still don't have any definite answer to how he got to LV. We don't know how much "explosive" fertilizer was in his car. Were there a dozen 50 lb. bags or a smidgen of dust that leaked out of a Miracle Gro box the gf used on her house plants two years prior?

350 posted on 10/03/2017 10:59:33 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: bushpilot2

2014. As was Los Angeles, D.C., Miami, Dallas, Houston, Phoenix, Chicago, etc. Throw a dart at a map and there’s an ISIS target.


351 posted on 10/03/2017 11:02:54 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: Yaelle

Im trying to consider everything that makes sense.Is it likely that this drunk guy who was an avid gambler,real estate speculator and who knows what else is also a premier marksman and has no problem with coming up with military equipment,guns armaments that the average guy couldn’t get in a million years?
Nothing adds up so its time to think out of the box,IMHO.
Maybe its likely that this guy is who he says he is. Who knows who did the shooting, how it was all put together, or who is behind it all. Educated guesses are all we have now.
I know what mine is.


352 posted on 10/03/2017 11:05:50 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Home of the free because of the brave!MAGA!)
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To: Rusty0604

Thanks,Im keeping an open mind. Not really sure where this all goes but I have my suspicions.


353 posted on 10/03/2017 11:07:28 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Home of the free because of the brave!MAGA!)
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To: Road Warrior ‘04

thanks.


354 posted on 10/03/2017 11:08:44 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Home of the free because of the brave!MAGA!)
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To: servo1969

So far I haven’t heard anyone saying where this guy might have trained or practiced with the guns.


355 posted on 10/03/2017 11:13:29 AM PDT by JediJones (We must deport all liberals until we can figure out what the hell is going on.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

She know what happened and why and it’s convenient she is in Tokyo .


356 posted on 10/03/2017 11:14:00 AM PDT by ncalburt (ll)
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To: rodguy911

In todays world of winner take all politics nothing would surprise me.....

Keep the articles insights coming. Always appreciated....


357 posted on 10/03/2017 11:14:03 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: AppyPappy

I guess ideally you’d want to tilt your body at an angle pointed right in the direction of the shooter to minimize the surface area of your body exposed to the line of fire.


358 posted on 10/03/2017 11:15:21 AM PDT by JediJones (We must deport all liberals until we can figure out what the hell is going on.)
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359 posted on 10/03/2017 11:16:01 AM PDT by bushpilot2
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To: Road Warrior ‘04

An AK has also been mentioned.


360 posted on 10/03/2017 11:20:49 AM PDT by windowdude
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