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Based on the Early Reports, the Las Vegas Shooting Is Very, Very Strange
National Review ^ | 10-2-2017 | DAVID FRENCH

Posted on 10/03/2017 3:31:00 AM PDT by servo1969

As virtually everyone has noted from the abundant video footage of the incident, it certainly sounds as if the shooter used either fully-automatic weapons or semi-automatic weapons modified (through, for example, a bump fire stock) to closely simulate automatic fire. Moreover, the police are reporting that he had “more than 10 rifles.” He apparently rented his corner room for days and may have even set up cameras to detect when police were approaching. That’s all strange enough, but it’s even more unusual when you consider that his own family apparently didn’t know that he maintained a stockpile of guns.

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Put all this together, and the shooting is flat-out bizarre. It’s significantly different from virtually any other mass shooting in U.S. history. If the weapons were fully automatic, then he likely would have spent immense sums of money to obtain them legally, jumping through extensive legal hoops.

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So, a person who’s “not a gun guy” has either expended untold thousands of dollars to legally purchase fully-automatic weapons, somehow found them on the black market, or purchased and substantially modified multiple semi-automatic weapons — and did so with enough competence to create a sustained rate of fire. This same person also spent substantial sums purchasing just the right hotel room to maximize casualties.

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Given the firepower and the packed mass of people, it’s easy to see how the casualty count was so high, even firing from an extreme range (by the standards of mass shootings.) This was the University of Texas tower attack on steroids, conducted out of nowhere, with meticulous planning and at great expense, from a person who doesn’t seem to fit any normal profile of a mass shooter. There is much we have yet to learn, but for now, this is one of the most chilling and mysterious events I’ve ever seen.

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To: smileyface

Or maybe the Deep State orchestrated this op in order to draw trump to Vegas and try to take him out.


201 posted on 10/03/2017 5:42:28 AM PDT by VietVet876
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To: Sacajaweau

The interview clip with his brother, Eric, of Orlando, is bizarre. His nervous grin, smirks, almost-like laugh is very bizarre....not the reaction you would expect from a family member of one who had just committed such a heinous, despicable, diabolical act of pure evil.


202 posted on 10/03/2017 5:42:44 AM PDT by nfldgirl
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To: knarf
Of course, neither you nor I have any way of knowing what kind of weapon it was. There are some saying here that he used some one of those stupid cranky thingies to simulate automatic fire... I don't think so.

When I heard it on my car radio, my first thought was the same as yours. A belt-fed machine gun like an M60. Possibly an M16, etc, with a 100-round magazine, although I'm not intimately familiar with such things.

Like someone else has already posted in this thread, though, 600 casualties caused by one shooter? I find that rather suspicious...

203 posted on 10/03/2017 5:43:51 AM PDT by OKSooner
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To: servo1969

Alex Jones is reporting that ANTIFA literature was found in the shooters room. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biqql4js8lo


204 posted on 10/03/2017 5:43:59 AM PDT by Neidermeyer (Show me a peaceful Muslim and I will show you a heretic to the Koran.)
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To: rodguy911

Good article.


205 posted on 10/03/2017 5:46:59 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: knarf

He was a high roller gambler. They always have rooms for those folks.


206 posted on 10/03/2017 5:47:47 AM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (Repeal & replace Obamacare, tax reform, fix infrastructure, fixin military, Israel, kill enemies)
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To: servo1969
If the weapons were fully automatic, then he likely would have spent immense sums of money to obtain them legally, jumping through extensive legal hoops.

Quite an assumption! Black market?

207 posted on 10/03/2017 5:48:03 AM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: ncalburt
He sent thousands overseas for them...They left the country...Lonely retired older Men who are easy pickings for these foreign female Casino employees.

Why would he send them money when he could just buy some new younger ones?

208 posted on 10/03/2017 5:49:46 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs, RINOs...same thing)
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To: x1stcav
I always say that after an event like this forget about it for 3-4 days and then the real facts will start to emerge.

I gave that advice to people I work with yesterday. Don't believe anything you hear in the first day or two. Yet...here I am this morning reading everything I can find on the subject.

209 posted on 10/03/2017 5:49:56 AM PDT by pgkdan (The Silent Majority Stands With TRUMP!)
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To: Susquehanna Patriot

On the 600 figure, I’ve heard no report that all were hit by bullets. Probably many hurt in crowd stampedes as people tried to escape.


210 posted on 10/03/2017 5:50:01 AM PDT by Will88
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To: knarf

Definitely sounds like two weapons, for sure! Thus, two shooters? Me thinks yes!


211 posted on 10/03/2017 5:50:18 AM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: ncalburt
The girlfriend was in Tokyo and was financed by who ? There maybe another Filipino girl too based on photos .

The key to his behavior is this person and her friends in the photos .


So true. Too much crazy speculation on this board. The ladies are the key to understanding. We need to know how he was spending his time.
212 posted on 10/03/2017 5:51:49 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: pgkdan

That’s so you, like the rest of us, can sort out the bullshit.

Then the real picture emerges.

We’re on to them. The old playbook doesn’t work anymore.


213 posted on 10/03/2017 5:52:57 AM PDT by x1stcav (We have the guns. Do we have the will?)
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To: knarf

“A witness who was on stage said she was a life long native of Las Vegas and that hotel is always booked MONTHS in advance.
For a guy to show up a week ago out of the clear blue is ... well .... improbable.”

I’ve read elswhere that the perp was a high roller who was often comped a room by Casinos.

Just because the average Joe-tourist has to book months in advance doesn’t mean that it applies to pro Vegas players.


214 posted on 10/03/2017 5:53:06 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Orthodox American!)
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To: Will88

Yes good point - breaking down the total casualties into different types.


215 posted on 10/03/2017 5:53:11 AM PDT by Susquehanna Patriot (Do Leftist/Liberals Really Believe That Dissent = Highest Form of Patriotism?)
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To: servo1969

first of all the guy was very rich, second of all, you can buy almost anything if you have no intention of paying the credit card bill. I probably have $100,000+ in unused but available credit sitting on credit cards inside my desk attracting dust.


216 posted on 10/03/2017 5:53:42 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Make America Great Again !)
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To: x1stcav
That’s why we’re born with brains; to filter out the bullshit.

Two words for you: Vince Foster

ML/NJ

217 posted on 10/03/2017 5:53:43 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: PeteB570
My family, other than my wife, has no idea how many firearms I own - or what type. None of their business.

Ditto. I'm not sure why they make this out to be something surprising. I have dozens, but other than my wife, no one knows that.
218 posted on 10/03/2017 5:55:39 AM PDT by TexasGunLover ("Either you're with us or you're with the terrorists."-- President George W. Bush)
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To: yldstrk
Whoever did this has a lifetime of gun knowledge,

Nope... just youtube an an Amazon account for the illegal ones, and $200 for the legal ones.
219 posted on 10/03/2017 5:56:39 AM PDT by TexasGunLover ("Either you're with us or you're with the terrorists."-- President George W. Bush)
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To: yldstrk
Think people, look at the evidence. 600 people shot, that is not one shooter.

Quite easy from that range and just spraying a group of 22,000.
220 posted on 10/03/2017 5:57:29 AM PDT by TexasGunLover ("Either you're with us or you're with the terrorists."-- President George W. Bush)
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