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Based on the Early Reports, the Las Vegas Shooting Is Very, Very Strange
National Review ^ | 10-2-2017 | DAVID FRENCH

Posted on 10/03/2017 3:31:00 AM PDT by servo1969

As virtually everyone has noted from the abundant video footage of the incident, it certainly sounds as if the shooter used either fully-automatic weapons or semi-automatic weapons modified (through, for example, a bump fire stock) to closely simulate automatic fire. Moreover, the police are reporting that he had “more than 10 rifles.” He apparently rented his corner room for days and may have even set up cameras to detect when police were approaching. That’s all strange enough, but it’s even more unusual when you consider that his own family apparently didn’t know that he maintained a stockpile of guns.

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Put all this together, and the shooting is flat-out bizarre. It’s significantly different from virtually any other mass shooting in U.S. history. If the weapons were fully automatic, then he likely would have spent immense sums of money to obtain them legally, jumping through extensive legal hoops.

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So, a person who’s “not a gun guy” has either expended untold thousands of dollars to legally purchase fully-automatic weapons, somehow found them on the black market, or purchased and substantially modified multiple semi-automatic weapons — and did so with enough competence to create a sustained rate of fire. This same person also spent substantial sums purchasing just the right hotel room to maximize casualties.

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Given the firepower and the packed mass of people, it’s easy to see how the casualty count was so high, even firing from an extreme range (by the standards of mass shootings.) This was the University of Texas tower attack on steroids, conducted out of nowhere, with meticulous planning and at great expense, from a person who doesn’t seem to fit any normal profile of a mass shooter. There is much we have yet to learn, but for now, this is one of the most chilling and mysterious events I’ve ever seen.

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To: Maskot

AND IS EXTREMELY AND PROFUSELY PHOTOGRAPHED IN THE CASINO, AT THE TABLES


261 posted on 10/03/2017 6:32:53 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true, I have no proof, but they're true.)
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To: TexasGunLover

Think people, look at the evidence. 600 people shot, that is not one shooter.

Quite easy from that range and just spraying a group of 22,000.
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600 people were not shot. A large number of people were hospitalized with injuries received trying to flee the shooting. We don’t know how many were actually hit by bullets, aside from the 59 killed.


262 posted on 10/03/2017 6:34:58 AM PDT by Raebie
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To: magglepuss
I have no idea what happened that day at SH, but I do know the story that was fed us is not the truth.

You're talking about your evaluation of things you saw on the news. Not everyone interprets the same evidence the same way.
263 posted on 10/03/2017 6:35:11 AM PDT by TexasGunLover ("Either you're with us or you're with the terrorists."-- President George W. Bush)
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To: SamAdams76

mow you are lashing out in anger because you have been called out for saying that Sandy Hook never happened


I wish I could be more like you and just say anything, no matter how true or untrue it was.


264 posted on 10/03/2017 6:35:26 AM PDT by magglepuss
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To: Raebie
600 people were not shot. A large number of people were hospitalized with injuries received trying to flee the shooting. We don’t know how many were actually hit by bullets, aside from the 59 killed.

I think you replied to the wrong poster. I agree that not all 600 were gunshot victims, but also don't believe that if they were, it was unreasonable for 1 shooter from that range in a crowd of 22,000.
265 posted on 10/03/2017 6:36:28 AM PDT by TexasGunLover ("Either you're with us or you're with the terrorists."-- President George W. Bush)
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To: magglepuss
"I have no idea what happened that day at SH, but I do know the story that was fed us is not the truth."

Now that is a cold, hard fact.....

266 posted on 10/03/2017 6:36:44 AM PDT by unread (Joe McCarthy was right.......)
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To: servo1969
...from a person who doesn’t seem to fit any normal profile of a mass shooter.

His conversion to Islam is all the profile needed to prove motive. He killed Infidels and has earned his 72 virgins.

267 posted on 10/03/2017 6:38:47 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: Biggirl

Me too. I would still be in shock were this one of my family members, yet they immediately come out stating he was not political, religious or a gun nut. How do they know this if they rarely had contact?


268 posted on 10/03/2017 6:41:59 AM PDT by dubyagee ("I can't complain, but sometimes I still do.")
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To: nonsporting
He had a girl friend who must have been aware of developments which might lead to his mass murdering behavior.

A Muslim girlfriend, for whom taqiyya is second nature. You'll not get the truth from her.

269 posted on 10/03/2017 6:42:11 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: TexasGunLover

One of those guns definitely has a bump stock on it. Can’t tell on the other.

The barrel is roasted on one.


270 posted on 10/03/2017 6:44:13 AM PDT by IamConservative (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.)
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To: Terry Mross
"A combat Marine called Savage and swears he hears two distinct weapons.

Although I don't have his experience, I also heard two distinct weapons, each firing more than thirty round bursts and one with a varying rate of fire. Last night, I asked an Afghanistan veteran if fully automatic weapons vary their firing rate. He told me that they need particularly good maintenance and without it they can act erratically, especially if long bursts are fired.

271 posted on 10/03/2017 6:44:43 AM PDT by PUGACHEV
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To: Sacajaweau
"Keep looking for a motive in my head."

False flag operation... I'm betting the guy was a big time gun control advocate....

272 posted on 10/03/2017 6:45:37 AM PDT by unread (Joe McCarthy was right.......)
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To: SamAdams76

You can ask questions without being a nut.

The only way we confirmed there were ONLY three shots a Dealey Plaza was for “conspiracy nuts” to keep asking questions til a police motorcycle mic picked up four distinct “pops”-—which were later shown to be three shots from Oswald’s gun & a motorcycle backfire-—and absolutely NO sounds coming from the grassy knoll.

In this case we have TWO pretty clear videos with muzzle flash at the 4-6 floors. OTOH -—so far-—I have yet to see ONE vid with any muzzle flash from the 32nd. Why did it take an hour to get there ? Maybe cuz if no muzzle flash the cops were working purely on unreliable sound.


273 posted on 10/03/2017 6:45:58 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: blabs

You make some great points. I don’t know if one shooter could do all that damage or not. But I do wonder why he felt the need to shoot from two different windows so far apart. There were plenty of fish in a great big barrel and by running back and forth between windows he decreased his kill time and decreased the number of victims..


274 posted on 10/03/2017 6:48:09 AM PDT by Terry Mross (Liver spots And blood thinners.)
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To: jimjohn

Well, what if a person committed crimes which paid really well? If he ended up with a ton of money, he would need to come up with some sort of cover story, in fact, he would probably have to come up with a number of stories and anything out on the net that people could Google might poke holes in these stories.

His behavior was consistent with hiding something, and the most logical thing would be criminal activity since: accountants are not known for being multi-millionaires, the children of prison inmates are not known for being the beneficiaries of societies opportunities, and it doesn’t sound as though this “real estate developer” actually developed enough real estate to make the kind of money that he made.


275 posted on 10/03/2017 6:51:37 AM PDT by BlackAdderess (Pray for our brave men and women in law enforcement)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Those are the facts my friend


276 posted on 10/03/2017 6:52:29 AM PDT by yldstrk (Mys heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: TexasGunLover

Look, I am not trying to pick a fight with anyone. However, the reaction from parents and the medical examiner was less than normal. And that is just at the heart of all the weird noncense at SH. At some point in time, we forgot as a nation what normal was. If you witness real people who have lost a small child in a sudden attack, they respond nothing like these people, however, most people don’t know that because they don’t normally go on tv. I ask you to watch a you tube video called “We need to talk about Sandy Hook” Then come back with comment.


277 posted on 10/03/2017 6:52:33 AM PDT by magglepuss
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To: servo1969

Marilou Danley


278 posted on 10/03/2017 6:56:52 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: All

Hillary has an ally in the Houston police chief. He said “silencers” would have prevented the cops from running toward the sound.


279 posted on 10/03/2017 6:57:12 AM PDT by Terry Mross (Liver spots And blood thinners.)
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To: Sacajaweau
I have 5 years of emails of my kids.

My email client has mail going back to 2005, if not earlier. That's just the oldest mail I saw with a quick glance.

280 posted on 10/03/2017 7:01:22 AM PDT by zeugma (I live in the present due to the constraints of the Space-Time Continuum. —Hank Green)
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