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To: Nateman
It’s a socialist regime. Does not take long before one no longer wants to be part of that.

YEah but my understanding is those pushing for separatism are the hard left.

4 posted on 10/01/2017 2:09:46 PM PDT by fso301
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To: fso301

“YEah but my understanding is those pushing for separatism are the hard left.”

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So what? For example, if the leftist elites in SoCal want a CalExit for their Mexifornia paradise, let them go (and a new state of Jefferson created in NorCal). It isn’t only conservatives who should have the right to secede from a government that does not represent their interests.


6 posted on 10/01/2017 2:19:31 PM PDT by peyton randolph (Socialism Lite is still Socialism)
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To: fso301
“YEah but my understanding is those pushing for separatism are the hard left.”

Not really. Franco was a totalitarian dictator who was favored by the fascist governments of Italy and Germany, but he was anti-communist. From my perspective, a dictator is a dictator, and fascist totalitarianism or communist totalitarianism are just different sides of the same evil. Because Catalonia was anti-Franco, they've been labelled as to the left, but that's a misnomer in my opinion.

7 posted on 10/01/2017 2:25:12 PM PDT by neverevergiveup
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To: fso301

The “tough love” principle requires they be allowed to experience what they’ve demanded to have.


9 posted on 10/01/2017 2:26:56 PM PDT by sourcery (Non Aquiesco: "I do not consent" (Latin))
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To: fso301

Wasn’t Barcelona a stronghold for the socialists during their civil war?


11 posted on 10/01/2017 2:33:18 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: fso301

Good. They’ll stew in their own juices, and maybe the rest of Spain will get sprayed with Normal Gas.


16 posted on 10/01/2017 2:39:38 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: fso301

Cataluna was the hotbed of communism during the Spanish Civil War


27 posted on 10/01/2017 2:59:31 PM PDT by expat2
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To: fso301

Right.


28 posted on 10/01/2017 3:09:24 PM PDT by SaraJohnson ( Whites must sue for racism. It's pay day.)
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To: fso301
YEah but my understanding is those pushing for separatism are the hard left.

This is true. Catalonian separatists are not as a rule right wing nationalists. They're pro-EU liberals, and while they oppose being ruled by Madrid they have no problem with being ruled by unelected Eurocrats in Brussels. They don't have any problem with mass immigration from the Middle East or Africa either, only with Spaniards.

In this regard they're very much like the advocates of Scottish independence, who hate London but love Brussels, and who detest the English but want to open their doors to Pakistanis and Africans.

66 posted on 10/02/2017 12:11:15 PM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: fso301; Nateman; Nextrush

Support for leaving seems to be we widespread across the political spectrum in Catalonia. They pay more more tax than they receive back and are tired of it.

But they are the least conservative region in Spain, so them leaving is win/win as far as I’m concerned.


80 posted on 10/03/2017 5:41:58 PM PDT by Impy (The democrat party is the enemy of your family and civilization itself, forget that at your peril.)
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