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To: Valpal1

What is the nurse’s theory? That she had the right to sequester the perpetrator? Like a sanctuary in a church?

I think those cops could have dragged the perp out of the hospital bed and tossed him in the back of a cruiser if they wanted to. She had no more right to protect him than if he had run into a message parlor.

Why did she think she had jurisdiction over the perp? Since when do medical persons have any right at all to resist orders from the police?


40 posted on 09/01/2017 10:34:21 PM PDT by anton
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To: anton

The “perp” died. Read the story before you post. The nurse was doing her job....and following the law. This cop didn’t.


44 posted on 09/01/2017 10:40:58 PM PDT by Shortstop7
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To: anton

You are so wrong. Look up HIPAA and other laws hospitals and medical professionals must follow. There are tons of laws, case law that require medical professionals to protect the rights of their patients. They are legally responsible for care and rights of patients.


46 posted on 09/01/2017 10:41:43 PM PDT by Tammy8 (Please be a regular supporter of Free Republic !)
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To: anton

The patient was in a coma in a burn unit with restricted access. The hospital through the nurse exercised medical guardianship of an incapacitated person until a family member arrived.

And the truck driver was not the perpetrator, but the victim of a head on collision by the perpetrator fleeing the police.


47 posted on 09/01/2017 10:43:16 PM PDT by Valpal1 (I am grown weary.)
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To: anton
What is the nurse’s theory? That she had the right to sequester the perpetrator? Like a sanctuary in a church?
I think those cops could have dragged the perp out of the hospital bed and tossed him in the back of a cruiser if they wanted to. She had no more right to protect him than if he had run into a message parlor.
Why did she think she had jurisdiction over the perp? Since when do medical persons have any right at all to resist orders from the police?

ROFLMBO. You cannot possibly be that stupid. You must be trolling for comments out of boredom.

But just in case: She wasn't sequestering the unconscious man, she was simply refusing to take blood from him based on a psychotic cop's demands, in violation of every hospital and police policy, as well as state and Constitutional law.

And, no, the cops could not drag him unconscious out of a hospital bed. They need things like probable cause, exigent circumstances, or a warrant... and they had none of those, and knew that they had none of those. She has every right to refuse to be coerced into committing a felony for them just because they demanded it.

Any free citizen can refuse any unlawful order from any policeman. It will likely make them mad, as it did with the ex-cop here... but that doesn't mean you are bound by law to obey there demand to commit a felony for their benefit.

Idiot.

50 posted on 09/01/2017 10:45:39 PM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: anton
The patient was a reserve police officer from another district. He was the victim of a police chase that went wrong. The officers had no reason to even approach the burn unit except to check on his health in pursuit of a criminal complaint against the driver that died in the crash.

They failed to follow the laws and agreed policies laid out by the police department and hospital. There is suspicion they were attempting to intimidate the Charge Nurse in order to cover up the department liability in the chase. The officers committed numerous felonies by their actions.

The "perp" in the bed was the victim who was unconscious and intubated. There was no warrant. There was no "probable" cause. There was no legal reason for them to be there.

Finally, all patients are under hospital jurisdiction until medically released. A "perp" would have had a full time guard present until medically cleared and released. You do not drag anyone, "perp" or not out of a hospital bed. Period.
53 posted on 09/01/2017 10:48:21 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media and Shariah Socialism.)
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To: anton
What is the nurse’s theory? That she had the right to sequester the perpetrator?...

The problem with your comment and with your attitude is that if you had bothered to read the original story, or any of the many comments, you would know that the person the nurse was protecting was the victim of a crash involving a high speed police chase where the real perp ran into the victims truck during the chase.

My belief is that the police were on a fishing expedition to get anything they could on the accident victim to reduce their liability.

58 posted on 09/01/2017 10:55:05 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: anton

anton, I have pair of cop boots I wear when doing dirty work, like digging up a drain line or picking up dog poop. They need cleaning, so bring your tongue over right away.


68 posted on 09/01/2017 11:22:10 PM PDT by JustaTech (A mind is a terrible thing)
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To: anton

I think you win the most stupid post I’ve ever seen on this forum.

Ever.

That takes some skill.


78 posted on 09/02/2017 12:26:43 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (Why defend the EU?)
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To: anton
She had no more right to protect him than if he had run into a message parlor.

The nurse was following hospital rules and regulations. If she drew the blood, she could be fired and lose her credentials. The cops were in the wrong, and should be fired and sued, if not jailed for assaulting the nurse. Jury will side with the nurse, and convict the ex-cops.

79 posted on 09/02/2017 12:34:37 AM PDT by roadcat
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To: anton

The innocent comatose man, so injured because the cops were chasing another man, whose vehicle collided with the victim’s truck causing it to catch fire is now a perp?

No probable cause, no exigent circumstance, no crime charges or alleged, no warrant and you call this guy a perp?

Just what did he perpetrate?


85 posted on 09/02/2017 2:10:09 AM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: anton

Are you aware that you can go down to the store and buy a can of Kiwi? You can eat it by the spoon full if you wish, in the privacy of your own home. That’s a lot easier and much less embarrassing than getting on your hands and knees and licking it off some rogue cop’s boots.

You either are ignorant of the situation or dangerously stupid. Take your pick.


88 posted on 09/02/2017 3:00:24 AM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smart-ass disorder.)
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To: anton

You have nor read nor watched a damn thing on the stoey. The nurse provided the cop the actual law stated 3 condutions to take blood. The hospital administration and staff explained it to him. Its was SHE following the law. Not him.


89 posted on 09/02/2017 3:16:30 AM PDT by Donnafrflorida (Thru Him all things are possible.)
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To: anton

“...Why did she think she had jurisdiction over the perp? Since when do medical persons have any right at all to resist orders from the police?...”

since 1776


90 posted on 09/02/2017 3:16:32 AM PDT by vooch (America First Drain the Swamp)
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To: anton
""40 posted on ‎9‎/‎2‎/‎2017‎ ‎1‎:‎34‎:‎21‎ ‎AM by anton"" -- Anton, It is past your bedtime.
92 posted on 09/02/2017 4:22:27 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: anton

Your supposed “perp” was actually the VICTIM. Reading the article before posting is recommended so you don’t look like an ignorant fool.


117 posted on 09/02/2017 5:16:12 AM PDT by 2nd amendment mama (Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: anton

Why are you impugning message parlors?


127 posted on 09/02/2017 5:58:25 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: anton

Read post 34.

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136 posted on 09/02/2017 6:57:27 AM PDT by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: anton
I think those cops could have dragged the perp out of the hospital bed and tossed him in the back of a cruiser if they wanted to. She had no more right to protect him than if he had run into a message parlor.

How are those lobotomy scars doin', Anton?? Scabbed over yet?

150 posted on 09/02/2017 9:27:21 AM PDT by Eric Pode of Croydon (I'm an unreconstructed Free Trader and I do not give a damn.)
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To: anton

“I think those cops could have dragged the perp out of the hospital bed and tossed him in the back of a cruiser if they wanted to.”

No, they don’t have that right, you idiot. They had no right to take blood, so under what legal authority do you, as an ignorant moron, think they had to drag him off? Because they are cops??


152 posted on 09/02/2017 9:34:07 AM PDT by CodeToad (Victorious warriors WIN first, then go to war! Go TRUMP!!!)
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To: anton

“I think those cops could have dragged the perp out of the hospital bed and tossed him in the back of a cruiser if they wanted to. She had no more right to protect him than if he had run into a message parlor.”

Shows you don’t have much to “think with!” Hospitals operate under Federal HIPPA Law regarding patients rights. Cop was way, way out of line. And BTW the “perp” was the innocent victim of a head-on from a Mexican Illegal fleeing the cops. So you’re again wrong.


163 posted on 09/02/2017 10:52:09 AM PDT by vette6387
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