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To: dragnet2

Yes, I agree.

The problems our Navy are experiencing right now are not fertile ground for levity.

We want our Navy to be in tip top shape. If anything this is cause for concern. The recent loss of ten sailors reminds me this isn’t subject matter for jokes.

Thanks for chiming in like that.


42 posted on 08/29/2017 9:35:08 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Exempting Trump and his team, our media and government have adopted the Zoolander management style.)
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To: DoughtyOne

I disagree. My Navy needs shaking up badly. Ridicule is a good motivator to those who have professional pride, and it’s time that some old salts tell D.C. to ppound sand, the fleet has a lot of work to do to clean up the mess. Folks know what needs to be done. And it starts with not wasting time on all the small stuff that never needed doing in the first place.


55 posted on 08/29/2017 9:58:40 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: DoughtyOne; dragnet2

Agree with you both. I find no humor in the tragedies of the Fitzgerald, McCain, and others recently. The loss of life, screwed up lives, embarrassment to our great navy, our great military, our reputation, etc. I took pride in my service, and still think of it that way.

Nope. Can’t find a chuckle in this.


58 posted on 08/29/2017 10:05:52 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists Call 'em what you will, they all have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: DoughtyOne

It should be pointed out that we have an inordinate number of retired Navy vets on here who have been disregarding the warnings many are posting about the equipment and capabilities of our potential enemies and the radical decay that’s set in in our Navy. They simply dismiss any discussion of adversary hardware and USN degradation and insist our Navy is so superior that no adversary could possibly touch us. Much like the British regarded the Imperial Japanese Navy prior to the sinking of HMS Prince Of Wales *by* the IJN. Or the French, prior to the Maginot Line getting bypassed in the Ardennes. And, obviously, just as wrong.

That fact that such a satire is even vaguely believable by people of even average intelligence and knowledge should tell you everything you need to know about the parlous state of our Navy - and how seriously we *really* need to be paying attention to the equipment and training of our adversaries.

Remember, the Russian Navy has more recent successful naval combat experience than the US Navy. Admittedly it was against Somali pirates, but it’s still surface combat experience and more recently than us. They also didn’t take the pirates back to be tried - they either killed them or marooned them. The Chinese also have recent anti-pirate combat experience, apparently. Our current Obaminated Navy? We can’t even avoid freighters or tankers running fully illuminated.


69 posted on 08/29/2017 11:41:24 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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