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Joel Osteen: ‘We have never closed our doors’ ('Our church is not designated as a shelter')
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| 08/29/2017
| John Sexton
Posted on 08/29/2017 7:18:35 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
Joel Osteen is the pastor of one of the largest mega-churches in the country which happens to be located in Houston. Sunday morning the church posted a message on Facebook which said, “Dear Houstonians! Lakewood Church is inaccessible due to severe flooding! We want to help make sure you are safe. Please see the list below for safe shelters around our city, and please share this with those in need!” This was followed by a list of multiple shelters in the area.
That led to a flood of criticism on social media that the church was, in effect, turning people away when they were most in need. Today, a spokesman for the church said the building was genuinely flooded Sunday. From the Washington Post:
Lakewood Church spokesman Don Iloff said the building itself had been flooded, with water getting close to spilling over the facilitys floodgate. Taking in a crowd of storm refugees over the weekend wouldve been unsafe, though Iloff maintained that the churchs doors have always been open.
We were never closed, Iloff told The Washington Post. This is crazy. People are saying weve locked the church. The church has been open from the beginning, but its not designated as a shelter.
Water had receded by Monday, and the building was designated as a shelter by Tuesday, Iloff said. He pushed back at critics who say the church shouldve let people in sooner.
As you might imagine, there has been a lot of debate about whether or not the church was flooded Sunday. A reporter for Gizmodo noted two pictures which haven’t been verified:
The Washington Post also published a photo which appears to show significant flooding outside the church. But by Monday whatever flooding there might have been the day before was gone:
Monday Joel and Victoria Osteen released a statement saying the church would partner with aid organization Samaritans Purse on relief efforts. The statement also said the church was working with the city to coordinate volunteers. By Monday afternoon, an update stated, “Coordinating with the city, Lakewood is a collection site for distributing supplies to the Houston area shelters.”
Tuesday morning, Osteen announced on Twitter that the church would now be open as a shelter:
The Houston Chronicle reports that by noon today about 50 people had taken shelter at Lakewood. So it seems this is a case of better late than never. The church may indeed have been flooded Sunday but it’s unclear why it took an extra day for Osteen to announce the building would accept people who need shelter 24 hours after it became accessible. If there’s a problem here it’s that the Osteens didn’t appear as eager to help as they might have. To be fair, the Post notes that the church, when it was located in another building, housed around 5,000 people who needed shelter after flooding in 2001.
TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: cashforprayers; houston; hurricaneharvey; joelosteen; megachurch; osteen; texas
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To: SeekAndFind
Let the liberal shake down begin... first the easy targets
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posted on
08/29/2017 7:22:01 PM PDT
by
JudgemAll
(Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucifiedc)
To: SeekAndFind
Has anyone even noticed that there is just as large a storm system twirling off US East Coast ?
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posted on
08/29/2017 7:24:47 PM PDT
by
UCANSEE2
(Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
To: SeekAndFind
Putting oneself in the spotlight has a way of, well, making oneself visible.
Maybe the Osteens might want to pre-plan disaster policy in future. Funny how God can use nature to say “Surprise! How does all your wealth look now?” If the Osteens only were willing to give true glory to the Lord for His gifts, He would forgive the Osteens.
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posted on
08/29/2017 7:26:25 PM PDT
by
HiTech RedNeck
(Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
To: SeekAndFind
People were crucifying Joel Osteen on Facebook. With great glee.
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posted on
08/29/2017 7:28:23 PM PDT
by
Ciexyz
(I'm conservative & traditionalist.)
To: SeekAndFind
No matter what he did, the media wants to cry wolf.
If he closed the doors, he was denying protection to flood victims.
If he left them open, he was endangering the lives of his ‘flock’.
Very similar to the way the media is attacking Trump.
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posted on
08/29/2017 7:28:43 PM PDT
by
UCANSEE2
(Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
To: HiTech RedNeck
It’s, supposedly, the House of God.
To: UCANSEE2
Many New Jersey beaches have been closed this week due to the high surf and strong rip currents from that storm, but we’re just getting some heavy clouds and intermittent rain from it today.
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posted on
08/29/2017 7:32:18 PM PDT
by
Alberta's Child
("I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris." -- President Trump, 6/1/2017)
To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
“Its, supposedly, the House of God”
Which the FEMA designation of a emergency shelter has not been granted. Therefore it is against the law to open the doors for disaster relief. I have a church fairly close to where I live that has been designated an emergency shelter and it contains many attributes such as industrial kitchens, adequate areas for mattresses, showers, large Laboratories, and many other things associated with an actual emergency relief shelter. If that church of Osteen’s is a large mall for instance, it does not qualify as an emergency shelter.
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posted on
08/29/2017 7:36:53 PM PDT
by
Clutch Martin
(Hot sauce aside, every culture has its pancake, just as every culture has its noodle.)
To: UCANSEE2
To: SeekAndFind
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its unclear why it took an extra day for Osteen to announce the building would accept people who need shelter 24 hours after it became accessible. Maybe because they had cleanup work to do inside?
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posted on
08/29/2017 7:47:17 PM PDT
by
BlessedBeGod
(To restore all things in Christ~~Appeasing evil is cowardice~~Francis is temporary. Hell is forever.)
To: SeekAndFind
Emergency shelters require lots and lots of logistical expertise.
Churches are not designed for it.
It is best done by states and municipalities.
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posted on
08/29/2017 7:48:16 PM PDT
by
buffaloguy
(Bond arms Cowbot)
To: HiTech RedNeck
Their building was flooded.
Not that their building being flooded matters in any way to those eager to rush in in judgement.
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posted on
08/29/2017 7:51:05 PM PDT
by
MrEdd
(Caveat Emptor)
To: UCANSEE2
I saw that on the radar and have heard that FL is also having flooding problems.
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posted on
08/29/2017 7:53:30 PM PDT
by
metmom
( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
To: SeekAndFind
The Bhagwan Rajneesh err, I mean Pastor Joel Osteen deserves all the flowers and kisses showered on his Rolls Royce.
Oh well, one is as Christian as the other...
To: HiTech RedNeck
If the Osteens only were willing to give true glory to the Lord for His gifts, He would forgive the Osteens. If only haters wouldn't hate. If only people wouldn't bear false witness. If only...
I'm assuming it's Satan who gets us to do all sorts of things we shouldn't do.
But we do, and in front of God and everybody, too.
(Fwiw, Christianity is hard and Proverbs 6:16-19 was written for you and me, my fellow sinner.)
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posted on
08/29/2017 8:08:01 PM PDT
by
GBA
(A = 432)
To: SeekAndFind
People are brave when they are anonymous. And Osteen is an easy target.
They’ll pound him because he isn’t housing storm victims while the storm is still raging, and then as soon as things clear up and he starts helping, they’ll claim he is only doing it because they forced his hand.
Whether you like Osteen or not, the day you or I become a visible target we’ll get to enjoy the same kind of grief from people with nothing better to do.
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posted on
08/29/2017 8:44:06 PM PDT
by
marron
To: MrEdd
There building was not flooding. According to Breitbart Texas, there were photos floating on social media that gave the appearance of flooding, but the building is dry.
Osteen responded to the criticism by saying he will be opening the building to use as a resupply station for Houston.
Breitbart Texas also wrote that to be fair, Osteen had opened the church in the past to house 5000 refugees from a previous natural disaster, I think they reported it was either Katrina or Rita.
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posted on
08/29/2017 8:48:26 PM PDT
by
RitaOK
(Viva Christo Rey! Public Education/Academia are the farm team for more Marxists coming... infinitum.)
To: marron
When your pastor could house a dozen flood victims in his $10.5 million mansion and never even know they are there, you're at the wrong church.
To: SeekAndFind
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posted on
08/29/2017 8:55:17 PM PDT
by
greedo
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