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Mitch McConnell joins John Kasich in Republican attack on Trump...
The Daily Mail ^ | 08/16/2017 | Nikki Schwab U.s Political Reporter and David Martosko, U.s. Political Editor For Dailymail.com

Posted on 08/16/2017 8:36:56 AM PDT by BradtotheBone

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell has weighed in on the weekend's violence in Charlottesville, Virginia, castigating Donald Trump without naming him.

'We can have no tolerance for an ideology of racial hatred. There are no good neo-nazis,' McConnell said in a statement.

The choice of words, while careful, appeared to push back against Trump's claim on Tuesday that some 'very fine people' were among a crowd of white supremacists who rallied in the college town.

McConnell's wife, Transportation Secretary Elaine Chao, stood next to Trump on Tuesday as he insisted both sides of the weekend's clash bore some responsibility for the violence that led to one death and nearly two dozen injuries.

Ohio Gov. John Kasich tore into Trump earlier in the morning.

'Pathetic, isn't it just pathetic?' Kasich said kicking off a 'Today' show appearance Wednesday morning.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Government; US: Kentucky; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: antitrump; assholes; gope; handwringers; snowflakes
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To: MagnoliaB

Muslims are neo-nazis...Much worse and way more dangerous.

Has turtle dork and the gope condemned islam in the same manner? /rhet


121 posted on 08/16/2017 11:30:36 AM PDT by Electric Graffiti (Obama voters killed America. Treat them accordingly.)
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To: Electric Graffiti

If I get zotted by saying people should not be at a rally organized by Richard Spencer where people chant “Jews will not replace us,” I’ll live with that.

I’m drawing the red line on Friday. No one in their right mind should have been there. And once the chanting started, anyone in their right mind should have left.

I’ll give a pass for Saturday, because Saturday seemed to be a mess of groups and agendas.


122 posted on 08/16/2017 11:43:50 AM PDT by WVMnteer
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To: Heart of Georgia

Yes sir! I thought it was awesome!


123 posted on 08/16/2017 11:50:24 AM PDT by bantam
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To: WVMnteer

So, if spencer/antifa/soros & associated agitprop groups decide to show up at any and every event, then everyone there gets smeared by extension...

Take a hike you POS.


124 posted on 08/16/2017 11:51:00 AM PDT by Electric Graffiti (Obama voters killed America. Treat them accordingly.)
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To: AmusedBystander

Although that could be coming.

I think the problem is two definitions of “Nazi”. One is to be an adherant to the Nazi philosophy; that seems to be where the “Nazi” group in Charlottesville is coming from, and that expression of hatred of jews, of the purity of a particular race, is the problem I see.

The other is that you were part of Germany during the 2nd world war, and were in the employ of the government. Yes, that made you a member of the “Nazi party”, but we somehow, probably out of necessity, distinguished between people who served their nation in war-making, and those who served the regime in human rights atrocities. The men who came to build our rockets were the former (we are told), not the latter.


125 posted on 08/16/2017 11:53:43 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: RitaOK

I never understood most of the “never trumpers”, and imagine some of them voted for him in the end anyway, realizing the disaster that would be Hillary Clinton.

On the other hand, even many of the Trump supporters were saying before the election that he’d “shape up”. It’s totally anecdotal, but today one of the most vocal local Trump supporters I knew, a young man willing to publicly post on facebook arguments for Trump, quit Trump today. He wasn’t a never-trumper, he just couldn’t figure out how to reconcile his belief in Trump with the idea of a “good Nazi”.

Me, I never really supported Trump, and I’m not going to denounce him now. He’s President, and I hope some day he starts acting like it, rather than making everything about himself.


126 posted on 08/16/2017 11:56:46 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Pelham

I actually was never a never-trumper. During the primaries I was hoping for a different outcome, but frankly I didn’t post much at all during the primaries or the general election, and after Trump was the nominee I knew however bad he was he’d be better than Hillary. And I hoped he’d figure out that the Presidency is bigger than one person.

But seriously, he’s not defending Conservatism. He’s rarely pushing any agenda of note. He’s almost always trying to defend himself, to build himself up. There are things that were essential like judges and reversing Obama’s regulations and pronouncements that are turning out fantastic, and that’s enough to be glad Hillary isn’t president, but in my opinion Trump is doing little to help the actual conservative cause.


127 posted on 08/16/2017 12:03:43 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Electric Graffiti

Is the argument that Spencer is actually pretending to be a Nazi?

Because the guy is doing a hell of an act.


128 posted on 08/16/2017 12:08:03 PM PDT by WVMnteer
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To: RitaOK

The problem is that the friday night demonstration was NOT the “good conservatives” being CALLED those things by the left. It was the ACTUAL Nazis, the ACTUAL KKK, and the Actual White Supremists.

Sure, there may have been a few others involved, but Trump’s statements don’t PROTECT us from being lumped in with the KKK, it HELPS those who are lumping us all in with them.

That is as big a risk to the conservative agenda now as the left trying to call us all racists, or even the fact that some of what Trump is pushing is pretty much against the normal conservative agenda.

THere ARE good people fighting for these monuments, but allowing the KKK/Nazis/Supremists onto the battlefield and seeming to support them has pretty much lost the war. You see any protests against Balitmore? You imagine anybody is going to show up to defend another statue of a dead guy?

Maybe that was going to be anyway, the moment Fields ran over a sympathetic figure. But if Trump was trying to communicate that there were evil people there, and they needed to be condemned, but that others were right in their opposition, he seems to have failed. Maybe he WANTED to communicate that, but part of communication is getting the point across. Reagan, you know, he had a media totally against him, but he had a way of getting the conservative message through that filter in a way that resonated.

Trump doesn’t appear to be doing that at this point. And I think he could, he has the ability, and I wish he’d use it.


129 posted on 08/16/2017 12:11:07 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: ohioman

Trump was correct that there was violence on both sides. That’s a hard argument to defend him on when he seems to say that some members of the KKK or the Nazis are fine people.

I’m not even sure he meant it, which is the worst part about it. I’m sure he’d tell you he hates the KKK, and he’d mean it. I just wish he’d figure out how to actually say that in a way that sounded like he meant it.

And frankly, I’d be thinking twice if I ever found myself saying that ANY politician was “100% correct”. Although I realize you probably only meant “in this specific speech”.


130 posted on 08/16/2017 12:14:46 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: bantam

“Yes sir!”

He was awesome! I’m happy with what he’s saying and don’t understand the criticism at all. I’ve seen some here do the same as the left. Wish they’d explain what he said wrong.

By the way, I’ve never had anyone mistake me for a sir, but there are only two choices, so I understand :)


131 posted on 08/16/2017 12:17:41 PM PDT by Heart of Georgia (#DrainTheSwamp #HeFights)
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To: P-Marlowe

Actually, the real Nazis were the people who showed up carrying Nazi flags and wearing Nazi symbols and shouting Nazi slogans.

It is absurd of you or anybody to claim that anybody who wants to defend statues is a Nazi. Or that anybody who denounces ACTUAL Nazis is calling you one because you want to defend statues.

Were there “fine people” at that rally friday night? Probably were, but at some point, you have to know when to separate yourself from the KKK, not march with them and hope people will see the distinction.

And yes, Antifa is a fascist organization. They weren’t the ONLY ones in Charlottesville. In fact, most of the Charlottesville riots were by TWO groups of people who have non-conservative values, who think this country should be segregated, divided by race, that different people should be treated differently. The left has long believed this, and the Nazi, KKK, Supremist groups are the same. Conservative ideology has been that we are all one people, created equal, with the same rights, without respect to sex or skin color.

Any, so no, I don’t think ANYTHING of you because of your desire to defend confederate symbols. But I’m still against people with guns and torches shouting “Death to the Jews”, even if they ARE claiming to defend a memorial.


132 posted on 08/16/2017 12:21:26 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Trump was correct that there was violence on both sides. That’s a hard argument to defend him on when he seems to say that some members of the KKK or the Nazis are fine people.

He didn't say that. He said some of the people protesting in Lee Park on the issue of the statue were fine people. Get your ears checked.

133 posted on 08/16/2017 12:21:44 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: aspasia
So how do people that were/are against taking down Lee's statue supposed to express their grievances? The asswipe KKK and alt whatever co-opted the event. Don't let them get away with that.

I am against taking down any Confederate statue. So do you think I am a racist? So do you?

134 posted on 08/16/2017 12:27:50 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Trump never said there was a good Nazi you f***ing idiot. Read the fu**ing transcript before you make such a bogus allegation.


135 posted on 08/16/2017 12:31:19 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Alberta's Child

Actually, there was violence the night before, although it was pretty muted compared to the next day.

And when a group invites Nazis, the KKK, and Supremists to march together, I think whether or not some “fine people” joined them in hardly the point, and I’m not sure why “fine people” would join such a march.

I mean, would you go to a KKK rally if they said the rally was to defend a monument? Would you join the Nazis if they said they wanted to have a rally for the confederate flag? Would you participate in a Supremist function if they were raising money to build a fence to protect a confederate statue?

Actually, I’m sorry that sounds a bit too harsh. I think some people MIGHT do that, but I think they might well be “fine people”, but I think trying to argue that participants like that were fine people is a losing argument.

BTW, none of this changes my opinion that Kasich and McConnell are real problems for the conservative movement, nor do I think having THEM talk out like this is of any real value.


136 posted on 08/16/2017 12:32:22 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Actually, the real Nazis were the people who showed up carrying Nazi flags and wearing Nazi symbols and shouting Nazi slogans.

This rally was apparently organized by an Obama supporting occupy Wall Street provocateur. I would venture to guess that most of the Nazi flags were being carried by George Soros paid agents. We as a nation have nothing to fear from Nazis or White Supremists. Our liberty is being threatened by the Antifa activists who wish to take away our freedom of speech and by their apologists in the uniparty swamp.

Whatever happened to those who would fight to the death for the freedom of speech of those of whom we disagree? Now if you express a different view, they will defend those who bash your head in because you offended some politically correct sensitivity.

137 posted on 08/16/2017 12:37:07 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping list.)
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To: odawg

That would be a great thing to come from this, if we didn’t have to hear “Russia” for a while.


138 posted on 08/16/2017 12:37:48 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT
But seriously, he’s not defending Conservatism. He’s rarely pushing any agenda of note. He’s almost always trying to defend himself, to build himself up.

That is 100% bullsh!t as it relates to yesterday's press conference.

He stood there in the lobby of his own building in NYC and made an announcement about his administration's agenda for infrastructure. He then spent 10-15 minutes answering questions from a bunch of retarded baboons that had nothing to do with his announcement. It turned out to be the best media event he ever had, because he stood his ground and exposed the media as a bunch of duplicitous, partisan frauds.

139 posted on 08/16/2017 12:37:59 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris." -- President Trump, 6/1/2017)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

I showed up at a Trump rally last fall and there were a few people there with Confederate flags. Should I have left?


140 posted on 08/16/2017 12:39:10 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris." -- President Trump, 6/1/2017)
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