Posted on 08/09/2017 9:30:30 AM PDT by Kaslin
Have a gun license? Plan to bring your gun to my hometown? Don't.
Mean New York authorities will make your life miserable.
Patricia Jordan and her daughter flew here from her home state of Georgia. She wanted her gun nearby for protection.
Jordan obeyed all the Transportation Security Administration's rules: She put her gun in a locked TSA-approved case with its bullets separate. She informed the airline that she had a gun. The airline had no problem with that.
In New York City, she kept the gun locked in her hotel room. She never needed it, but her daughter told me, "I was glad she brought it just in case something did happen."
When leaving the city, Jordan followed the TSA's rules again. At the airline counter, she again told the agent she wanted to check her gun. But this time, she was told: "Wait."
"Next thing I know, they're getting ready to arrest me," she said.
Her daughter was crying, "Please don't arrest my mom!" But New York City cops arrested her, jailed her and told her she was guilty of a felony that mandates a minimum 3 1/2 years in jail.
Jordan's ordeal is not unique. Roughly once a week, New York City locks up people for carrying guns legally licensed by other states.
Another Georgia visitor, Avi Wolf, was jailed although he didn't even have a gun. He just had part of a gun -- an empty magazine -- a little plastic box with a small metal spring. He brought it to the city because it wasn't working well and he thought a New York friend might repair it. He couldn't believe he was being arrested.
"Somebody could've done more damage to an individual with a fork from McDonald's," Wolf told me.
Wolf, too, checked with the TSA beforehand. They said, just declare it to TSA agents. So he did.
"I'm telling them ... I have a magazine here. It's empty, no bullets ... Next thing I know they're pulling me over to the side, they're like, 'Do you know what you have in your bag?!' 'I know what I have in my bag, I told you what I have in my bag.'"
Following TSA instructions didn't do Wolf any good. "Fast forward about an hour and it was four Port Authority police there. The chief of LaGuardia airport is there, [as if] they thought they found somebody trying to do 9/11 repeat," he says.
"They asked me if I had a gun license. Of course I had a license. I'm from Georgia, and everybody there's got a gun license. And they're like, well, sir, you're going to be getting arrested now."
Wolf and Jordan spent less than a day in jail, but each had to pay lawyers $15,000 to bargain the felony charge down to "public disorder."
"We are not going to apologize for enforcing our gun laws," said Assistant District Attorney Jack Ryan when I confronted him about these pointless and cruel arrests. He said New York City enforces laws as "humanely and as compassionately as we can."
But the system is neither fair nor humane.
Patricia Jordan kept her bullets separate from her gun, as TSA regulations require.
"The officer could not even find my bullets in my suitcase. I had to show him where they were," she told me.
That didn't matter, said the DA, because the gun and bullets were in the same suitcase.
"Under New York law, if they're together, they're loaded," says Ryan.
"They're loaded even if they're not loaded?!" I asked. Yes, he said.
I called him a sadistic bully (the full video is at JohnStossel.com). He replied that New York City must make sure people are "not threats."
New York claims this keeps us safe. But people like Jordan and Wolf actually make us safer. Texas data shows licensed gun owners are seven times less likely to murder someone than a nonlicensed person. They also prevent some crimes. Nationwide, crime has dropped as the percentage of people with concealed handgun permits has risen.
Licensed gun owners aren't the problem. Crazy laws and callous prosecution are.
“Asst DA Jack Ryan is a worthless Nazi bastard. But what can we do about it?”
Lure him down to Georgia and arrest him on some menial charge that will cost him $15,000 plus a month in jail.
“It’s declared on check-in and I’ve never had a problem.”
Bet you didn’t do that in NYC!
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Well actually I go through TSA security with my government issue Glock. I’m an FFDO. However when I land at LaGarbage and have to RON my gun is locked up in the main crew quarters.
If you have a gun in your possession in some places like NY and NJ and you don’t have a license for that state or a firearms owner ID card for that state, you are a criminal according to their laws. You’d also be in violation of the law for having a magazine that holds more than 7 rounds, even if it was empty and no gun to go with it. Insanity...
Had a similar incident at Heathrow Airport in London.....
The British “TSA” finally let me through after arguing....
Bullet cigar punches are sooooooo dangerous...
Great, Thanks!
In DC that’s the same law; however that law is for the common folk. David Gregory held up a 30rd. magazine on his TV show that came out of DC. That magazine is illegal in the worst way there. He never got charged. One veteran was pulled over on a traffic stop there and a cop found a shotgun round rolling around in the trunk and he was arrested for having unregistered ammunition. The craziness of liberalism is maddening.
So long as I’m behind the TSA security point i.e. in the main concourse or out on the flight line/tarmac NYC can go pound sand.
“So long as I’m behind the TSA security point i.e. in the main concourse or out on the flight line/tarmac NYC can go pound sand.”
The article is discussing the issue of having a gun BEFORE going through TSA check.
Hollow point bullets are practically illegal in NJ as well. I think you can have them in a self-defense gun inside your home but that’s about it.
I never heard of the FFDO thing before. That’s pretty cool.
I don’t carry a gun…
… to kill people. I carry a gun to keep from being killed.
I don’t carry a gun to scare people. I carry a gun
because sometimes this world can be a scary place.
I don’t carry a gun because I’m paranoid. I carry a gun
because there are real threats in the world.
I don’t carry a gun because I’m evil. I carry a gun
because I have lived long enough to see the evil in the world.
I don’t carry a gun because I hate the government. I carry a gun
because I understand the limitations of government.
I don’t carry a gun because I’m angry. I carry a gun so that I don’t have to
spend the rest of my life hating myself for failing to be prepared.
I don’t carry a gun because I want to shoot someone. I carry a gun because I want to
die at a ripe old age in my bed, and not on a sidewalk somewhere tomorrow afternoon.
I don’t carry a gun because I’m a cowboy. I carry a gun
because, when I die and go to heaven, I want to be a cowboy.
I don’t carry a gun to make me feel like a man. I carry a gun
because men know how to take care of themselves and the ones they love.
I don’t carry a gun because I feel inadequate. I carry a gun
because unarmed and facing three armed thugs, I am inadequate.
I don’t carry a gun because I love it. I carry a gun
because I love life and the people who make it meaningful to me.
“Police Protection” is an oxymoron. Free citizens must protect themselves.
Police do not protect you from crime, they usually just investigate
the crime after it happens and then call someone in to clean up the mess.
The Federal Flight Deck Officer program is run by the Federal Air Marshal Service with the aim of allowing volunteer pilots of commercial airline flights to carry firearms for the purpose of defending the flight deck against criminal activity.
https://www.tsa.gov/for-industry/training
I know I know I know. I was told by a poster I shouldn’t go to NYC/NJ with a gun and since I’m an FFDO - okay, just forget it.
Are you drunk?
Are you a troll?
No.
Just trying to make sense of your posts ...
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