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To: Fred Nerks
And by the same token, you don’t know for certain if that piece of flotsam came from the same aircraft which crash landed in the water with Fuddy on board

Indeed I do. But this is just another of your feeble attempts at creating doubts within things that I have noted have already been verified by the experts and on-scene people. Their testimony would stand up in court, while your mere conjectures would not have the credibility to stand without hard evidence.

You attempt to spin conjectures into theories without evidence (e.g., your inference that the flotsam is just my imagination and that there's no evidence to back itup, or your conjecture about an exhaust extractor on some green Caravan somewhere, several posts back. The picture in my post #173 is picture #5 as shown in the MCP extract below, thus my evidence is fully supported, for which I didn't earlier drag in the support image and logical paradigm. I was merely tailoring what I said to the person (you) that claimed "less is more," which you apparently treat with a personal ethical relativism.

That picture of the "flotsam" was supplied by the Maui County Police as part of their incident report! MCP identified it as part of the Fuddy Crash. So all your attempts at inserting doubt deserve simply to disappear. Similarly, the doubts you've attempted to interject about the green SEAL transport deserve to disappear. Your imagined evidence of what an exhaust extractor as you posted in a differently-equipped Caravan in posts #158 and #161 simply deserve only to disappear, as they are not relevant evidence. Though you've said about the bottom of your green Caravan image and the " 'slip and slide' thingamajig", "I would dare to say that both items are a colour-match." that's all wrong and not relevant evidence. Your doubts do not make for contrary evidence. None of those played a part in this crash.

Butterdezillion talks of a the likelihood of Fuddy having gotten make-over, which would be entirely Standard Operating Procedure for a person the authorities want to be able to start a new life, and all you can do, as in your post #150, is act as if she talked about a "re-engineering .. a new life form" as you show an apparently engineered creature from the deep. You, as 4Zoltan, HG and others are not seriously working toward the truth of this event. You are exercising the politics of personal destruction. Those kinds of responses are not normal interactions between conservatives. (And please spare us all the, "Well, you deserve it-type comments.")

Your memory of what you may think I've said is obviously confused. Just as with the "flotsam," you would try to attack it as if we don't know it came from the plane as if Grand Caravan parts regularly wash up on Molokai beaches and the MCP don't supply pictures when they're part of their Incident report as part of a UIPA request.

181 posted on 08/15/2017 8:07:17 AM PDT by rx (Truth Will Out!)
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To: rx

That Incident/Investigation Report list is dispositive. The depths of research that your evidence indicates is impressive.


184 posted on 08/15/2017 9:33:29 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Inernet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: rx

Well, answer me, what happened to the diver who turned out to be Fuddy’s trouser leg, the diving equipment that turned out to be her shoe, Yamamoto who was claimed top be NOT Yamamoto...and the various passengers who were claimed to be standing up in water deep enough to cover the wheels of the upturned aircraft? You can’t have it both ways. As your story slips into murky fantasies, you make up more stuff and insult anyone prepared to ask questions. I’m neither a subversive nor an obot. Just an individual you think you can bully by throwing more graphics and garbage at, obviously in an effort to make me buy a book.
No thanks.


190 posted on 08/15/2017 2:45:58 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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To: rx

In that (for some strange reason green tinted image) you can clearly see where the partly brown exhaust extractor, having been ripped from where it was fastened to the fuselage, is now floating above the nose of the sinking aircraft. You can also see a portion of the damaged luggage pod, almost in two pieces, floating against the aircraft as it is lifted by the wind, in the region where the greatest water turbulence was. The reason you see the suitcase close to the swimmer is that this portion of the luggage pod obviously didn't disintegrate and release the large suitcase itself until after the aircraft had come to a stop.

Ferdinand Puentes image doesn't have that green tint, but then, he wasn't trying to tell us what he filmed was some mystery personnel lurking near the nose of the Cessna, and a some sort of green flotation device...and btw, while I remember, whatever happened to the theory that the aircraft we were shown from which the passengers made their exit, wasn't really the same aircraft which was photographed from the air after it had landed in the water?

Whoops! Now you got me. I have to buy the book to find out, don't I? Not a chance. I am reading The Real Global Warming Disaster written by Christopher Booker at the moment, now there's a fascinating fraud well worth the time, I highly recommend it.

191 posted on 08/15/2017 3:49:33 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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