California secession campaign can start gathering signatures

SACRAMENTO, Calif.

A group that wants California to secede from the United States can start collecting signatures for its ballot initiative.

The state attorney general issued an official ballot measure title and summary Tuesday. The campaign can now start gathering the more than 585,000 signatures it will need to qualify for the 2018 ballot.

The initiative would form a commission to recommend avenues for California to pursue its independence and delete part of the state constitution that says it is an inseparable part of the U.S. The measure would also instruct the governor and California congressional delegation to negotiate more autonomy for the state.

Well, yes. That’s what I said: There is no legal mechanism in the U.S. Constitution that allows for secession. That’s a fact.

I suppose one could argue that since the Constitution does not explicitly prohibit succession, it must somehow be doable. That’s shaky reasoning

So you're saying that everything not allowed by the Constitution is forbidden? In fact, the Constitution explicitly states certain things the states can't do. Then, it also says they can do everything else:

Article I
Section. 10.
No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility.
No State shall, without the Consent of the Congress, lay any Imposts or Duties on Imports or Exports, except what may be absolutely necessary for executing it's inspection Laws: and the net Produce of all Duties and Imposts, laid by any State on Imports or Exports, shall be for the Use of the Treasury of the United States; and all such Laws shall be subject to the Revision and Controul of the Congress.
No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any Duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay.

Article the twelfth... The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

Not this CRAP again.

Many economists agree that California is currently going through a financial tragedy, with a projected budget deficit of 19 billion dollars this year.

Jobs- No job in California is safe at the moment. The state cut 22,000 teachers in the past year to help with the education budget. Small businesses are suffering as well. Sacramento now has one closed business for every six that remain open.

In Los Angeles County 1 in 5 people are now receiving public aid. California as a whole has 12% of the nation’s population, but 36% of the country’s Temporary Assistance for Needy Families welfare recipients.

With fewer Californians in the workforce, the state’s pension fund is quickly plummeting. CalPERS, California’s state pension fund has $16.5 billion more in liabilities than assets. On top of the already bankrupt system, California is expected to receive a $51.8 billion bill for the state’s retirees’ healthcare in the next year.

California’s Healthcare System might be the biggest mess, with 1 in 4 Californians (under 65) having no health insurance last year. This individual dilemma has snowballed into a state-wide problem, as dozens of hospitals and E.R.s have shut down in the past ten years. The connection? Many hospitals and emergency rooms could not afford to stay open after being filled with illegal immigrants, unemployed Californians and homeless people who weren’t able to pay for the services they were receiving.

>———Exactly what US resources is it a drain on?<———

According to an article in Slate, “[Receivership] would involve the assignment of an accountant to manage the state’s debt, overseen by a judge. It would be a lot like bankruptcy, except instead of following a structured set of steps, a receiver has the authority to force creditors to renegotiate loans in a speedy fashion.” Details are still unclear, as California would be the first state to go into receivership.
HAHAHAHAHA Moved there in ‘58, left in ‘94 but not soon enough.

I’ve thought about this some more. My post #53:

The 10th Amendment: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

One could fairly argue that since secession is not covered in the Constitution, the 10th Amendment gives that power to states.

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