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Sessions Issues Policy and Guidelines on Federal Adoptions of Assets Seized (tr)
DOJ ^ | Jul 19, 2017 | AG Jeff Sessions

Posted on 07/21/2017 11:37:55 AM PDT by Ray76

Attorney General Jeff Sessions today announced a new Department of Justice policy regarding the federal adoption of assets seized by state or local law enforcement under state law.

The Department’s new policy strengthens the civil asset forfeiture program to better protect victims of crime and innocent property owners, while streamlining the process to more easily dismantle criminal and terrorist organizations.

The policy and guidelines were formulated after extensive consultation with the Task Force on Crime Reduction and Public Safety, as well as line Assistant United States Attorneys, career officials in the Criminal Division’s Money Laundering and Asset Recovery Section (MLARS), and career Main Justice attorneys.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abuseofpower; agsessions; assetforfeiture; civilforfeiture; sessions
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To: Ray76

thanks for the post. listened carefully to Jeff’s statement and rationale for it. i personally can’t find any fault in it or what he says about it whatsoever.

it sounds as if he’s consulted *all* stakeholders (unlike say healthcare in congress) in the issue. he’s tightening the protections in the program against wrongful seizure and abuse, including the claims processing to return assets to their rightful owners when applicable, what can be seized requiring the constitutional standard of “probable cause” only. all this while making sure as he says that “crime doesn’t pay” and fund criminal syndicates, drug gangs and organized crime, and is used to fund law enforcement against such entities.

i suppose you can argue about the program’s existence, but if it has to exist, then i’m glad Jeff is managing it.


21 posted on 07/21/2017 12:18:03 PM PDT by dadfly
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To: Ray76

This civil forfeiture business seems patently unconstitutional to me and I hope a case goes to SCOTUS and they knock it down. Way too much abuse is highly likely.


22 posted on 07/21/2017 12:19:05 PM PDT by mtrott
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To: Ray76

The only guidance Sessions & the Trump administration should follow on this matter is the Fourth Amendment.


23 posted on 07/21/2017 12:19:43 PM PDT by gdani (Everyone is a snowflake these days)
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To: cowboyusa
He should be fired just for this.

Does he have the president's agreement on this? Does anyone here know?

24 posted on 07/21/2017 12:19:50 PM PDT by Will88
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To: txhurl

ok....got it!


25 posted on 07/21/2017 12:26:50 PM PDT by caww
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To: mrsmith

Did our Founders use “this tool” against US citizens? I didn’t think so, but I could very well be mistaken.


26 posted on 07/21/2017 12:26:54 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

I couldn’t agree more.


27 posted on 07/21/2017 12:27:30 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: shanover

I predict that if all these contrived, deliberate theatrics, schemes, scams and debacles continue unchallenged Trump will be out of office, resigned or impeached by Jan 20, 2019. He desperately needs Newton Leroy Gingrich or someone of his EXPERIENCE and understanding of “politics” in the position of W.H. Chief of Staff, or personal advisor to the President. If Scaramucci is that person, good, we’ll see soon enough. But Trump has lost his (our) first year already. If this continues he won’t have four.


28 posted on 07/21/2017 12:28:52 PM PDT by matthew fuller (God bless America, D.J. Trump, John Wayne, Johnny Cash, Ray Charles, and John Moses Browning.)
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To: Ray76
IMO, asset forfeitures should be placed in "Limbo" for a time certain and subject to judicial review. Upon the forfeiture becoming final, it must be directed to retiring the National Debt! I can assure you that FAR TOO MANY ABUSES occur where local/state/federal agencies DIRECTLY have their budgets benefited through asset forfeiture (for obvious reasons)!!!
29 posted on 07/21/2017 12:33:55 PM PDT by ExSES (the "bottom-line")
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To: Ray76
This is not good!

Has anyone yet to consider that Sessions is deep state and his unbelievable recussial was part of the plan to destroy Trump?

30 posted on 07/21/2017 12:47:19 PM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: mrsmith

The criterion is not what the Founders did. The criterion is what the Constitution says.

No person shall be deptived of...property without due process of law.


31 posted on 07/21/2017 12:49:16 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (https://youtu.be/IYUYya6bPGw)
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To: txhurl

Sessions says that only one out of five asset seizures are contested in court, touting this as proof that most of them are legit. However, many of these seizures are not contested because the victims can’t afford the attorney’s fees, especially when the assets was small amounts of cash, and the reason for suspicion was that law abiding citizens don’t carry cash. The victims were never found guilty of any crime, but still can’t get their cash back.


32 posted on 07/21/2017 12:50:55 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Ray76

“Funding priorities like new vehicles, bullet-proof vests, opioid overdose reversal kits, and better training are all paid for by asset forfeitures. In departments across this country, funds that were once used to take lives are now being used to save lives and it removes the inner instrumentalities of crimes such as illegal firearms, ammunition, explosives, and property associated with child pornography from criminals, preventing them from being able to use these tools to further their criminal acts.”

There are two giant flaws in this. While claiming it is about “illegal firearms,ammunition, explosives, and property associated with child pornography” it is fact that no one has to be convicted of a crime in order for the assets to be seized, on the “civil” not criminal MERE CLAIM that the assets are the product of or used in the commission of a crime, or crimes. Guilt, not innocence is ASSUMED, without trial when the assets are seized. Then, even when no criminal trial ever convicts the person from whom the assets are seized - it happens often enough every year, the person has to sue to proclaim they are innocent - again showing the law is about “guilty until proven innocent”.

The second thing is the whole asset forfeiture agenda becomes an institutional fundraising enterprise that takes on its own importance and priority, often enough putting that priority over and above true justice.

We need asset forfeiture to be restricted to existing proof, in a trial of guilt and guilt demonstrating the acquisition or use of assets to be seized. An additional law can be passed to provide a civil court process ahead of the criminal trial, to demonstrate to a judge the need to have assets “closed off” from a suspect, until the criminal trial is over. That can include a court order placing assets in a non-government held escrow account, by court order, requiring a subsequent court order to have the first order lifted, or placed in the governments hands.

Altogether “due process” and innocent until proven guilty should prevail.


33 posted on 07/21/2017 12:56:18 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: trisham

Yes, notably, the first congress passed laws for forfeiture of ships accused of being used for illegal acts.
Impossible that no citizens ran afoul.

Do a search for... history “civil forfeiture”.


34 posted on 07/21/2017 12:57:36 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: Arthur McGowan

Ah!
So you’re going with “The Founders didn’t know nothing!”
I’ll give that due regard.

Much of the British legal ways were carried over. The exceptions are generally explicitly stated in the Constitution (might be some exceptions).


35 posted on 07/21/2017 1:04:19 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: Wuli

That’s reasonable.


36 posted on 07/21/2017 1:04:57 PM PDT by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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To: Ray76

I bet this is a precursor to the feds confiscating a bunch of cash from pot store owners in Washington State, Colorado and others.


37 posted on 07/21/2017 1:20:10 PM PDT by Sparticus (Primary the Tuesday group!)
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To: Ray76

My home state of Oregon is crazy leftist, but it was smart enough to ban asset seizures.


38 posted on 07/21/2017 1:24:19 PM PDT by aimhigh (1 John 3:23)
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To: Sparticus

Minnows.

There’s whales that must be brought to justice.

Seize the assets of the Clinton Foundation.


39 posted on 07/21/2017 1:25:39 PM PDT by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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To: Ray76

Wow.. after all that work Mr. Sessions it’s probably time for another nap.


40 posted on 07/21/2017 1:49:11 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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