Posted on 07/19/2017 5:32:22 AM PDT by Rockitz
A clean partial repeal.
Oh brother again.
So true. At this point all I can do laugh at gum flapping junior Senators like Rand & Cruz. That anybody is still gullible enough to buy what these snake oil salesmen are selling is hilarious.
We should’ve had a clean repeal instantly. Let the few who may vote against what they already previously voted for and see how that works out for their traitorous assess. We didn’t vote for GOP to have them preserve Obamacare. I 100% support Rand on this.
I think it would be designed to show the hypocrisy of those who changed their vote. That may be a good thing going forward.
Just watch, there is always a reason to do nothing.
Trump is getting screwed by those who want things back to normal.
Obamacare needs to be repealed. Letting the market determine health care will bring the prices down considerably. It’s called capitalism and competition. Or do you wish for single payer like the left?
We shouldve had a clean repeal instantly. Let the few who may vote against what they already previously voted for and see how that works out for their traitorous assess. We didnt vote for GOP to have them preserve Obamacare. I 100% support Rand on this.
You don’t seem to understand. Rand is supporting, for the moment, a partial repeal. Wait 5 minutes and that may change. A “clean repeal” needs 60 votes to overcome a Dem filibuster. Rand and the rest of the Senate “true conservatives” are being dishonest on repeal. Shocking, I know.
Will these stupid senators ever wise up? just let obamacare die and when it’s dead place the blame completely on the democrats.
Then announce that there will not be a replacement and let the free market take over.
I’ve always been for a clean repeal especially in light of the fact that the GOP seem to think bailing out insurers and ocare exchanges is what we voted for them to do. If they want to do that crap then put it in a separate bill after the repeal. The reason they don’t is simple. They know it would never fly even though Democrats should back such measures.
The majority of women in power at every level always side with the progressive left...always.
THERE IS NO CONSEQUENCE OF REPEALING OBAMACARE THAT IS WORSE THAN OBAMACARE ITSELF
What they should have done is followed through on what they, including Trump, all ran on:
Repeal as just the start of further federal regulation repeal so as to restore the free market to medicine such as we haven’t had since the 1940s.
Then Trump and his team should have used the bully pulpit from day one to make the case for that to Congress’s various constituencies across the country.
If somehow they came up short, they could have at least got Obamacare repealed, as well as the tax deductibility of employer-provided insurance. That is a biggie, but it should have been coupled with major tax cuts such that those who would owe more tax for the change would also have had the difference made up for with lower income taxes.
The third major repeal that should have been done up front is repeal of the McCarran-Ferguson Act, which took away interstate competition for health insurance: https://www.americanactionforum.org/research/primer-interstate-sale-of-health-insurance/
Those three repeals, plus the coupling with tax cuts to make the repeal of employer deductibility palatable, should have been Trump and the GOP’s position out of the gate.
His thoughts on Federal Healthcare make more sense than anyone else out there babbling about it.
The majority of women in power at every level always side with the progressive left...always.
The problem with your argument is that the “true conservatives” (Lee, Rand, Moran, etc.) sided with the progressive left to sink the Obamacare bill.
If they want to let ACA languish for 2 years, Trump _MUST_ EO the Louisiana Purchase and the Cornhusker Kickback.
Despite pols’ claims what was voted on in 2015 was not repeal.
See sections 204 and 205 regarding the individual and business mandates. The mandates were not repealed, the penalty amounts were set to zero.
Leaving the structure in place is dangerous. It allows a future congress to set the rates to a non-zero amount.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/3762/text
My argument doesn’t have a problem...not at all.
After reading 50 plus comments on this thread it struck me that the comments are as conflicted as republican congress members.
Certainly the failed vote would be good for Rand Paul but not Trump.
I think Trump realizes this which is why he came out with this after it was announced that such a vote would fail:
Trump says time to 'let ObamaCare fail' after health bill stalls (By Alex Pappas July 18, 2017 Fox News)
Then there's this GOP Senator (Moran KS) who literally ran away from reporters yesterday after saying he's oppose repeal.
I agree with Rand.
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