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At Least Five Dead after Military Plane Crashes in Mississippi
New York Daily News ^ | 07/10/2017 | Christopher Brennan

Posted on 07/10/2017 6:15:10 PM PDT by DoughtyOne

At least five people are dead after a military transport plane crashed in Mississippi, according to reports.

The plane came down early Monday evening, sending plumes of black smoke billowing into the air above a field near Moorhead, northwest of Jackson.

Sheriff Ricky Banks told the Clarion-Ledger that at least five people had died on the aircraft, believed to be carrying nine.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: crash; fallen; marines; military; mississippi; planecrash; usmc
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To: deadrock

In this day and age, I suppose that’s a reasoned question isn’t it.


41 posted on 07/10/2017 9:52:50 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Fourth estate? Ha! Our media has become the KCOTUS, the Kangaroo Court of the United States.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Especially because it is being reported at the Daily Mail that it exploded at 20,000 ft.


42 posted on 07/10/2017 9:57:05 PM PDT by deadrock (I is someone else.)
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To: pfflier
There was one report of structural failure at 20,000 feet.

Sounds like it could have been a mid-air collision during refueling operations, with another aircraft.

20,000 feet is about right for KC-130 refueling operations, though I haven't heard any other reports of damaged aircraft landing nearby.

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Alan Hammons, an official at Greenwood Airport, told WNCN that the aircraft suffered a “structural failure” at 20,000 feet.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/07/11/marine-aircraft-crash-at-least-12-bodies-recovered-from-mississippi-crash-site.html

43 posted on 07/10/2017 9:57:09 PM PDT by zipper (In their heart of hearts, every Democrat is a communist)
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To: Innovative

Terrible...


44 posted on 07/10/2017 9:58:58 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Fourth estate? Ha! Our media has become the KCOTUS, the Kangaroo Court of the United States.)
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To: deadrock

The impact area seemed awfully small for an aircraft exploding at 20,000 feet.

Perhaps it wasn’t a full blown disintegration at altitude.

It will be interesting to see what they come up with.

If there was Jihadi involvement, it’s going to be a game changer.


45 posted on 07/10/2017 10:01:23 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Fourth estate? Ha! Our media has become the KCOTUS, the Kangaroo Court of the United States.)
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To: DoughtyOne

After the Fort Hood cover up, I wouldn’t be so sure.


46 posted on 07/10/2017 10:07:45 PM PDT by deadrock (I is someone else.)
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To: wjcsux; DoughtyOne; All

Clicking the link, the headline now says 16 dead, those poor families.


47 posted on 07/11/2017 1:52:50 AM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: gleeaikin
It says at least 16 are dead. I'm assuming everyone on that plane is dead, so were there more than 16 that they are still searching for, or have they just not released how many were on board yet?
48 posted on 07/11/2017 2:53:48 AM PDT by LeeClementineKenny (TRUMP 2020! - Make America Great Again! - MAGA!!! - www.DonaldJTrump.com)
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To: Figment

The NY Times report says a wing came down a mile away from the main impact site:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/10/us/military-plane-crashes-mississippi-delta-deaths.html


49 posted on 07/11/2017 4:49:32 AM PDT by Paul R. (I don't want to be energy free, we want to be energy dominant in terms of the world. -D. Trump)
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To: Figment
The story said debris spread five miles. Sounds as if something came apart

Possibly a propeller let go mid-flight. It has happened.

I flew on the EC-130H Compass Call aircraft back in the early '90s. We had two rows of equipment lining the sides of the aircraft. I almost always sat in the fore-most starboard position on that equipment, and to my left, somewhere about a foot or so, there was a safety tape (black/yellow) line up the inside of the fuselage that showed where the inner starboard engine's propeller would be. Basically I was told that's where to expect the impact should a propeller from that engine let loose and come into the craft.

50 posted on 07/11/2017 6:51:39 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (An' Tommy ain't a bloomin' fool - you bet that Tommy sees! - Kipling)
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To: DoughtyOne

Makes you wonder what was on that plane...


51 posted on 07/11/2017 7:01:46 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: DoughtyOne

God awful dear God please save our Military. Why them? RIP great Americans.


52 posted on 07/11/2017 7:07:09 AM PDT by angcat (THANK YOU LORD FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP!!!!!)
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To: DoughtyOne

RIP Warriors


53 posted on 07/11/2017 7:09:41 AM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory.)
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To: pfflier

Is 8 or 9 a regular crew size on one of these birds?


54 posted on 07/11/2017 7:13:59 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Not my circus. Not my monkeys.)
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To: mad_as_he$$

The death toll is now up to at least 16! They are still looking for bodies.


55 posted on 07/11/2017 8:10:17 AM PDT by acoulterfan
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To: yarddog
I am not sure a KC-130 could do that but can’t think of why not.

It can, the 'K" just means it is refueling capable.

56 posted on 07/11/2017 8:27:29 AM PDT by xone
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To: mad_as_he$$
A regular USAF C-130 crew is 3-4 depending on whether they are taking a navigator along. The typical crew is Pilot, Copilot, and Loadmaster. The C-130J is the latest model and design to operate with a crew of 3.

The Marines fly the KC-130 with a crew of 6 typically adding safety spotters/refuelling equipment operators.

57 posted on 07/11/2017 8:31:26 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: acoulterfan

Damn...


58 posted on 07/11/2017 8:38:44 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Not my circus. Not my monkeys.)
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To: b4its2late

Mississippi news outlets are reporting there was a lot of ammo on the plane.


59 posted on 07/11/2017 8:42:11 AM PDT by Stormy_MS1
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To: zipper
Structural failure of a C-130 is very rare and equally odd. It just doesn't happen with that bird, it is made tough. I have not heard of any structural related crashes in 20+ years of military C-130 experience. There is the famous video of the firefighting C-130 shedding it's wings but that one was retired from the military before it was used by the contractor. I don't have any idea how the contractor maintained the plane.

The allegation that the forward fuselage was located separated from the rest of the aircraft wouldn't suggest a collision as the refuelling aircraft trail below and behind about mid wing on either side. Also with passengers onboard (last count I read was 16 fatalities recovered) it would suggest that it was a logistical flight, not a dedicated refuelling mission.

I am purely speculating now at this point but there may have been an internal explosion possibly ordnance being carried. On the video I transmitted on an earlier post, there is an unusual yellow smoke trail flying opposite the direction of the main smoke plume. You can see it as the helicopter rotates around the rear of the wreckage.

60 posted on 07/11/2017 8:45:30 AM PDT by pfflier
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