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Senate Panel Votes to Allow Navy to Call at Taiwanese Ports
WSJ ^ | June 28, 2017 | Eli Stokols

Posted on 06/29/2017 7:51:33 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

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To: cba123
During Korean War, China was forced to choose between Taiwan and N. Korea. They chose N. Korea then. Now Trump is forcing them to choose between the two. What will be their choice now? If they want to hold onto both, things will get difficult for them. There will be economic retaliation and as you said, U.S. will bring in more allies, who historically hate China.
21 posted on 06/29/2017 8:28:59 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (dead parakeet + lost fishing gear = freep all day)
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To: laplata
It’s standard protocol for US Marines to be stationed at every embassy.

Yes, but the AIT is NOT an embassy. We have no formal diplomatic relation with Taiwan. This is the first time that US Marines will be stationed at AIT. Currently it is the local police that provide security.

22 posted on 06/29/2017 8:30:50 PM PDT by TheCipher (Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself. Mark Twain)
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To: laplata

I think the AIT in not actually an embassy, though it does the things an embassy does.

So this is a bit of a change.

I think.


23 posted on 06/29/2017 8:31:20 PM PDT by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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To: DoughtyOne
The GOP passed a resolution in 2016 Reaffirming the Taiwan Relations Act and the Six Assurances as cornerstones of United States-Taiwan relations. Glad to see their finally living up to it.
24 posted on 06/29/2017 8:32:01 PM PDT by RC one (The 2nd Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances)
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To: MrEdd

The thing about Taiwan, is that every so often they make overtures to work out some plan to rejoin the mainland.

I don’t think we should stick our neck out at all, if that’s their take on things.

Granted, it’s been a while, but it sure soured me on supporting them whole hog.


25 posted on 06/29/2017 8:32:50 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Fourth estate? Ha! Our media has become the KCOTUS, the Kangaroo Court of the United States.)
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To: RC one

They also passed a health care bill.

Jackasses!


26 posted on 06/29/2017 8:33:39 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Fourth estate? Ha! Our media has become the KCOTUS, the Kangaroo Court of the United States.)
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To: Mears
Taiwan was a wonderful city!...safe...clean...parks..historic sites....and your right...The women were beautiful!!!..and spoke English very well!!....

I really do have a lil portfolio of my time there...(and a TON of stories...lol)

27 posted on 06/29/2017 8:37:36 PM PDT by M-cubed
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To: TigerLikesRooster

.........those of us that have been in Westpac more than 40 years ago know Kaiohsiung is the best liberty call in all of the Western Pacific.


28 posted on 06/29/2017 8:40:31 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas
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To: DoughtyOne

There is a struggle between mainladers and native Taiwanese. Mainlanders always set sight on China. They don’t see Taiwan as a separate state. Natives resent mainlanders and China. They would rather side with Japan. Actually they are pro-Japan.
Democratic Progressive Party represents natives and Kuomintang, mainlanders. on the political spectrum, DPP is a liberal party more like Dems in U.S., though. I believe Kaohsiung is the stronghold of natives and DPP.


29 posted on 06/29/2017 8:44:10 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (dead parakeet + lost fishing gear = freep all day)
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To: Cen-Tejas
Taiwan was one of the most pro-American countries. Then it was turned into an international pariah while potential enemy China was showered with gifts like rocket technology.
30 posted on 06/29/2017 8:57:01 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (dead parakeet + lost fishing gear = freep all day)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Kaioshung is a nice city to visit. Had great food down there. Unfortunately a hurricane/typhoon had just hit the island and there was about 4 feet of water in the streets.

I think the hotel staff just went up to the roof and did their dinner fishing from there. You should have seen the size of the fish we had. Probably a 15-20 pounder, perfectly baked and sliced so that we could take out large square chunks of fish in our chopsticks.

Since I had the longest arms at the table, I got a lot more fish than others.

The people of (official name) the Republic of China (ROC), are very friendly, well educated, and hard working.

Just for shits and grins, the former president of Taiwan, Mark Ma (Cheo Jeung something or other) was a classmate of mine at the Summer Seminar for Sino-American Youth at Chengchi University. We knew he was going to become a political leader later on. Unfortunately, he became a little to soft on Red China and later lost re-election.

However, he was a nice person, well educated and a new friend, along with the rest of our Chinese student counterparts and hosts.


31 posted on 06/29/2017 9:14:47 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: TigerLikesRooster

This time, the Dali Lama would not have to leave out through the back door next to the garbage bags. That’s how The Kenyan treated him years ago. No pictures showing Obama and the Dali together! Obama was so afraid of ruffling China’s feathers.


32 posted on 06/29/2017 9:40:12 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: TigerLikesRooster
This step is mandatory given China's aggression in the S China sea.

Good for the Trump admin.

33 posted on 06/29/2017 9:44:01 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: DoughtyOne

Over thinking. Negotiating with China using every mean possible to shut down North Korea. Trump 10 steps ahead of your thinking.


34 posted on 06/29/2017 9:46:28 PM PDT by Tamatoa (Fight for our America, Fight for our Country I fought to defend!!!)
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To: TheCipher

Yes, but the AIT is NOT an embassy. We have no formal diplomatic relation with Taiwan. This is the first time that US Marines will be stationed at AIT. Currently it is the local police that provide security.


I stand corrected. thanks for the clarification.


35 posted on 06/29/2017 9:52:09 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: Tamatoa

Except this came from Capital Hill, unless I’m missing it.

Thanks.


36 posted on 06/29/2017 9:53:20 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Fourth estate? Ha! Our media has become the KCOTUS, the Kangaroo Court of the United States.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Thanks for your comments. Makes sense.


37 posted on 06/29/2017 9:53:45 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Fourth estate? Ha! Our media has become the KCOTUS, the Kangaroo Court of the United States.)
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To: cba123

You’re right. I just got the correct information. Thanks.


38 posted on 06/29/2017 9:54:16 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I am extremely pleased with this vote. Taking slow, steady steps towards recognizing one of the most advanced democracies in Asia is a good idea.


39 posted on 06/29/2017 11:44:21 PM PDT by Taipei
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To: TigerLikesRooster

The divide is much more generational as well as urban/rural than it is ethnic at this point. Essentially no Taiwanese - be they ethnically Han Chinese, Taiwanese, or Aboriginal (Polynesian) - under the age of 35 has any interest in rejoining the mainland and the vast majority support independence.

This desire for independence is mitigated by the immense economic important of China to Taiwan. Companies like HTC, Asus, Acer, Lenovo, Foxconn and others which are all Taiwanese corporations have their manufacturing in China. China could harm Taiwan tremendously. Imagine if China, Canada, and Mexico all simultaneously stopped importing goods from America and exporting goods to America, it would be about that profound.

So, the youth and the urban population of Taiwan generally favor taking slow, careful steps towards independence. Many younger Taiwanese favor quicker steps, but as they get a little older and enter the workforce, the realize the importance of maintaining China as a trading partner while the move towards independence happens.

Older Taiwanese and rural Taiwanese are more closely allied with the KMT who favor the status quo, with slow movement towards some kind of reconciliation. A lot of this has more to do with guang xi than it does with an actual in depth understanding of the politics of the situation. Much like Americans who blindly vote Dem or GOPe without thinking, these people are allied to the party much more than policy or principle.


40 posted on 06/29/2017 11:44:21 PM PDT by Taipei
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