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1 posted on 06/27/2017 5:21:20 AM PDT by simpson96
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SO middle class and lower working stiffs - who cannot afford to eat at Starbucks even if they wanted to pay higher taxes on their earnings so the welfare class can dine on Starbucks fare - no wonder Illinois is on the brink of bankruptcy.


2 posted on 06/27/2017 5:25:15 AM PDT by ISTHISONETAKEN
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As a straight white taxpayer who eats bologna sandwiches and drinks Hills Brothers coffee I feel a loss of dignity.


3 posted on 06/27/2017 5:25:40 AM PDT by Senator_Blutarski
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Meanwhile, I know some middle class families where both parents are working and struggling, eating peanut butter sandwiches and paying $8,000 deductible on their health care insurance. They can’t afford Starbucks.


4 posted on 06/27/2017 5:25:55 AM PDT by HarleyD
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If Starbucks is donating the unsold food for free, that’s fine.


5 posted on 06/27/2017 5:26:12 AM PDT by grania (Deplorable and Proud of It!)
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"There's something respectful about giving out good, quality food," said Ed Jacob, executive director of Franciscan Outreach, which runs Franciscan House. "It's a dignity thing. It's not like putting bologna between two slices of bread."

Ah, charity mission creep.

Ed needs to rethink that statement. It is a good thing for commercial eateries to donate food that they would otherwise throw away. But there is also nothing wrong with bologna between two slices of bread if that's what you have.

We'll probably get to the point before long at which the next Obama will go to homeless shelters to complain about the price of arugula.

7 posted on 06/27/2017 5:29:29 AM PDT by sphinx
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Starbucks...dignity...because it’s not miserable enough being homeless, you’re given frothy rabbit pee called coffee too!


8 posted on 06/27/2017 5:31:37 AM PDT by ClearBlueSky (ISLAM is the problem. ISLAM is the enemy of civilization.)
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Here are the homeless shelter 'guests' as they are referred to in the article. See all the poor women and children, and the old and feeble population that they serve? Me neither.
9 posted on 06/27/2017 5:32:37 AM PDT by ISTHISONETAKEN
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How much is the state of Illinois in debt?

But hey, let’s just keep spending like drunken sailors.


13 posted on 06/27/2017 5:34:08 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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if they truly were over made amounts on occasion ok, but I can see how starbucks could easily make extra on purpose and have a bigger write off to “donations” while also bumping up cost to paying customers to cover their actual cost for the donated stuff.

Ridiculous the amount of over baking and making that goes on in all these pre made sorts of foods whether pre cut fruits and veggies packaged up in grocery stores or bakery cafes or convenience stores or whatever. convenience cost more than people actually planning ahead for themselves. Heck I just saw store made bottled water “Infused” with fruit. like a 10 ounce bottle of who nows where it came from water with a few pieces of cut up fruit selling for $2.50!!! crazy! It had no real details of what was in it or how/where it was made could be tap water from the janitor’s closet and fruit that was spoiled on opposite end of pieces put in jar.

Homeless should be making plans to not continually need a hand out. Yes I have been homeless briefly and it made me realize I need to live within my means and have plans, so that’s why I wrote what I did.


14 posted on 06/27/2017 5:36:46 AM PDT by b4me (If Jesus came to set us free, why are so many professed Believers still in chains?)
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It a suck up moment.


16 posted on 06/27/2017 5:37:56 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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God knows we don’t want hobos, tramps and bums to be without dignity.


17 posted on 06/27/2017 5:39:44 AM PDT by ggboss
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It’s all well-and-good until somebody gets a sandwich that makes them sick, or they have a food allergy and something in the salad or sandwich sets it off; then, boy-howdy, the lawsuits that will fly at Starbucks will wallpaper their headquarters ...


19 posted on 06/27/2017 5:40:56 AM PDT by BlueLancer (Ex Scientia Tridens)
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Something else just struck me --- it seems that it wasn't too long ago that "homeless advocates" were complaining that "forcing" the homeless to eat left-overs was demeaning and destructive to their fragile psyches.

Does this now mean that food that is more expensive is less demeaning than that coming, say, from a grocery store, where some assembly is required to prepare the food for the homeless?

20 posted on 06/27/2017 5:44:39 AM PDT by BlueLancer (Ex Scientia Tridens)
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Starbucks is burnt crap anyway. Let’em chug the swill.


23 posted on 06/27/2017 5:46:00 AM PDT by Mermaid Girl
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The more you reward an action, the more you will get of that action.

When I was growing up, going on welfare was to be ashamed. Something done only as a last resort and something to get off of as soon as possible.

Studies in the past had shown that while the “poverty numbers” remain pretty much the same over the years, the individuals that were considered below the poverty line changed.

Individuals (and families) would often at no fault of their own (illness, loss of job, injury) would be put into a financial crisis that required assistance. These individuals would do what it took to get back on their feet again.

Socialist have done everything they could to make being poor painless and without shame.

If solving the nation’s poverty problem I am sorry to burst their utopian bubble but human nature being what it is means this approach will mean an ever growing number of “poor”. Personally I think think those in charge know this, solving the problem is not their real goal. Look at other programs that have been created to “solve” the problem.

It is no coincidence that these same liberals push for higher minimum wages. They are designed to make it impossible for the poor to enter into the job market.

Add into this equation student loans for questionable trade schools, you have a motivated individual trying to do what is right only to discover there is no job waiting at the end of the process and now they are broke, unemployed and facing a debt they will never be able to pay off. They give up.

Liberals want as many poor as they can create to justify more government workers to take care of them.

That is my opinion anyway, you may disagree.


24 posted on 06/27/2017 5:54:55 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (US out of the UN, UN out of the US)
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Hey, I don't drink coffee and have never been to a StarTakeYourBucks.

Nothing wrong with my "dignity".

This is all liberal BS.

29 posted on 06/27/2017 6:21:33 AM PDT by HotHunt
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green goddess avocado salads

Gross. If this isn't an incentive to get off the public dole so one can afford to buy decent food, I don't know what is.
30 posted on 06/27/2017 6:28:47 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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"It's a dignity thing. It's not like putting bologna between two slices of bread."

The truly homeless are not gourmands who turn their noses up at perfectly good plain food. I managed to make it through many school lunches with nothing more than a slice of bologna between two slices of bread - food that was paid for by my parents, not by taxpayers - and I managed to survive the ordeal with my dignity intact.
32 posted on 06/27/2017 6:32:55 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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Starbucks is crap coffee and is all marketing hype....they over roast their beans....I can’t drink their swill.....

My assessment is they are punishing the poor by making them drink it......


33 posted on 06/27/2017 6:34:49 AM PDT by nevergore (I have a terrible rash on my covfefe....)
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First off, I don’t complain about Starbucks. It is a capitalist society, allegedly. If someone wants to dump their money on their products, have at it. It is their choice. I don’t but that is also my choice. I like Dunkin Donuts Coffee more.

Second, if they are donating the stuff that would normally just go into the dumpster, I applaud them, even if they are taking a deduction for it. No matter how high the deduction, it would only be allowed to be the value of the product to them, not the retail value, so be it. IMO, it is for a good cause.

Third, if the goofy do gooders believe that eating bologna sandwiches and lemonade are not want they want to deliver, so be it. Their business model to do so.

As long as the state is not playing a role in this endeavor, I have no dog in the fight. We need to bring a spotlight on the up creeping number of “poor” in this country. It is skewing the need for all the “programs” to fix the problem. Real poor do not have cell phones, TV, convertible autos, and dishwashers. Poor has become a word that would have equaled middle class a century ago.


34 posted on 06/27/2017 6:34:52 AM PDT by Mouton (The MSM is a clear and present danger to the republic.)
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