St. Louis Confederate memorial removal temporarily halted

STL Today (St. Louis Post Dispatch) ^ | June 19, 2017 | AP News

[Da Bilge Troll]

ST. LOUIS (AP) — A judge has issued an injunction that will temporarily prevent the city of St. Louis from removing a Confederate monument from Forest Park.

St. Louis Circuit Court Judge Robert Dierker on Monday issued the injunction and set a July 6 hearing for arguments over whether the city or the Missouri Civil War Museum owns the monument.

The museum filed a lawsuit Friday against the city, contending the United Daughters of the Confederacy signed over the ownership rights to the monument last week. The city contends it controls the monument and wants to remove it soon. Dierker's ruling came as city workers were installing steel rigging on the structure Monday, in preparation for removing the 38-foot monument.

[Da Bilge Troll]

This monument is not going down easily.

[Bogie]

Try it with Grant’s tomb, and the whole system is cooked.

[Ray76]

Is there a group pushing the city into this?

[dp0622]

I’m from NYC and this is bull ####.

Should have never let them take the FIRST statue down ANYWHERE.

[PROCON]

[cabbieguy]

The left in this country is no different than the Taliban in Afghanistan, destroying historical monuments that don't fit their ideology.

[Da Bilge Troll]

"Is there a group pushing the city into this?"

Newly elected democRat mayor and BLM, of course.

[Ray76]

New Orleans was pushed into it by a well known communist agitator. “Tear down the capitalist white establishment” http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/3561720/posts?page=12#12

[Eternal_Bear]

Actually St louis is not a good place for a Confederate monument as the city was a stronghold for Unionists during the Civil War. In fact, St louis kept Missouri in the Union. Southern Missouri is a far better place for Confederate monuments.

[Da Bilge Troll]

"Try it with Grant’s tomb, and the whole system is cooked."

Don't forget Lewis and Clark began their trip here -- and took a slave with them.

Plus, the Gateway Arch itself is a monument to stealing Indian land!

[Fido969]

Crazy Dillon Roof shoots up a church prayer meeting, and we need to remove all the Confederate monuments. A crazed Bernie supporter shoot up a Republican gathering and it’s Trump’s fault.

[grania]

It isn't even rational that blacks want memories of the Civil War and slavery removed. They're testimony to what some of their ancestors endured, and that they persevered. It's in their DNA...the strength, endurance and survival skills slaves had to have. Besides that the blues, baseball and a tradition in the arts were all positively impacted by the Civil War and slavery. The message should be "we're survivors and stronger for it". Instead they're erasing that legacy.

I don't hear Irish people demanding that museums celebrating the industrial revolution be destroyed because their ancestors were indentured servants. My 25% Irish says I want to know all I can about that.

[Da Bilge Troll]

"St louis kept Missouri in the Union."

Actually, Missouri did secede. The legislature assembled a quorum in Springfield and the governor signed it.

[Bogie]

Well, the Indians were big on slavery, back in the days before big money, that is.

[hanamizu]

Southern Missouri is a far better place for Confederate monuments.

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Actually, southern Missouri was not a natural place for slavery—think Ozarks. Central and Northern Missouri were more suitable for slave-based agriculture. That said, there is a push in Cape Girardeau (I don’t know how big a push, just a letter in the paper) demanding that our little Confederate memorial stone be removed from view. It sits in the courthouse park next to a much larger statue of a Union soldier.

[Ray76]

American Taliban. Erasing American history one memorial at a time.

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Can we just remove the leftists instead?

[Guenevere]

Thank you!
My ancestors resting in their Confederate graves thank you!

[x]

Actually St louis is not a good place for a Confederate monument as the city was a stronghold for Unionists during the Civil War. In fact, St louis kept Missouri in the Union.

True. The German population was especially loyal to the union, and this made them unpopular with Confederate sympathizers. But for the Germans, Missouri might well have seceded.

Southern Missouri is a far better place for Confederate monuments.

There were a lot of Confederate supporters in the boot heel of southeast Missouri. But even more further north and west along the Missouri. You might think it was too far north for slavery, but it wasn't. It also had a lot to do with where people had come from.

Harry Truman's family in northeastern Missouri were Confederate sympathizers. Jesse James came from nearby and carried out his private war even after Appomattox.

[x]

I should have said “northwestern Missouri.” But it’s that counterintuitive that there should have been secessionist sentiment that far from Dixie.