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FIRE WEST LONDON (facebook live)
FOX6 News Milwaukee ^ | 6/13/2017 | live video

Posted on 06/13/2017 7:47:02 PM PDT by Brown Deer

Watch live: A huge fire has engulfed a 24-story apartment block in West London.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: asbestos; fire; globalwarminghoax; greenbuildings; grenfelltower; localnews; london; nottinghill; unitedkingdom
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To: Brown Deer

I have experience in NYC fleeing fire. Luckily for us it was contained next door. Prayers up!


301 posted on 06/14/2017 12:01:03 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Happy Nobama!)
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To: caww

“a new communal heating system”
I wonder if it was gas or electric?
was the fire inside to outside or outside to inside or both?


302 posted on 06/14/2017 12:02:01 AM PDT by blueplum ( ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: piasa

Same here. I refuse to live & even work in a high-rise For that reason- they are firetraps. What will you do? Run outside on the 20th floor? Right now I live on the second floor apartment and I do worry because the landlord will not fix anything. I have 3 outlets that are not working. I also know a few of my neighbors outlets do not work. So that has been in back of my mind.


303 posted on 06/14/2017 12:15:02 AM PDT by Patriot Babe
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To: blueplum

The early video I saw showed the fire burning on the exterior of the building on the lower floors, and most likely some apartments as well. It rapidly spread up the side of the building as it did it shattered windows and spread inside.

As for the heat, I have seen several complexes employ a central gas fired boiler providing hot water to individually controlled unit heaters in the apartments. Some also will have individual gas fired heaters, but on one meter paid for by the landlord instead of 200 individual meters.


304 posted on 06/14/2017 12:21:42 AM PDT by matt04
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To: anton

From what I have seen reading through this thread, this isn’t a ‘propane’ refrigerator like in the RV’s. It is a greenie refrigerator that doesn’t have any evil freons as a refrigerant, but uses iso-butane as the refrigerant. Probably because it is better to blow the building up than to damage the ozone layer.

If I remember correctly the ‘gas’ refrigerators as in RV’s use something like ammonia as the refrigerant and the gas flame supplies the energy instead of Reddi Kilowatt. My Aunt had a gas refrigerator on their farm out in the Black Swamp in NW Ohio when I was growing up - of course the swamp was drained by then..

They had oil wells on the property and used the gas coming off the well closest to the house for heating, cooking, and the refrigerator. I can imagine that should a leak occur it could get explosive but it sounds as if this London thing is a different type of bird.


305 posted on 06/14/2017 12:24:26 AM PDT by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: caww
BBC report: many dead and missing, numbers still unknown

London Fire Commissioner Dany Cotton said there had been "a number of fatalities" but he could not say how many because of the "size and complexity" of the building. "This is an unprecedented incident," he told reporters."In my 29 years of being a firefighter, I have never ever seen anything of this scale." He said the cause was not yet known.
306 posted on 06/14/2017 12:35:29 AM PDT by Enchante (Searching throughout the country for one honest Democrat....)
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To: Enchante

I don’t know what originally started the fire, but the cheap Chinese cladding could have made it spread in such a deadly fashion so fast.


307 posted on 06/14/2017 1:03:49 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: originalbuckeye

I don’t know. I am hearing a lot of muslims lived there.


308 posted on 06/14/2017 1:06:10 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Yaelle

Yes, I suspect there will need to be a huge push to get that kind of garbage off buildings fast. I wonder how vast the problem will turn out to be, how many structures have been done with it?

Imagine if London had been built with stuff like this back in the day when the Luftwaffe was bombing..... ofc they didn’t have too many 27 story residential buildings in 1940, I don’t think!


309 posted on 06/14/2017 1:08:08 AM PDT by Enchante (Searching throughout the country for one honest Democrat....)
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To: al baby

Built in 74. How do you know it had sprinklers?


310 posted on 06/14/2017 1:08:57 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: NoCmpromiz

Good call on the UK “enviro” fridges..it’s true, they are using butane & propane as refrigerant as a “green” substitute...from 2009:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1210334/Alert-new-wave-exploding-fridges-caused-environmentally-friendly-coolant.html

The “3-way”(120v/12v/propane) RV refrigerators are ammonia-based coolant technology.

http://www.rvrefrigerator.net/Troubleshooting.htm


311 posted on 06/14/2017 1:34:41 AM PDT by Drago
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To: Nifster

I bet the TRUE cause of the fire will not be the OFFICIALLY REPORTED cause.


312 posted on 06/14/2017 1:38:12 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

Agreed. Particularly if it is a terrorist act


313 posted on 06/14/2017 1:51:10 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the cloudsl)
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To: Yaelle

I never heard the word “cladding” before today. I feel really dumb.


314 posted on 06/14/2017 2:08:02 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Haiku Guy

Building was clad in Aluminum Composite Material panels.

Some of these are fire resistive. Some are not.

I’m guessing the ones used in this particular building were not.


315 posted on 06/14/2017 2:19:24 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (eliminate perverse incentives)
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To: Patriot Babe

https://www.walmart.com/ip/First-Alert-Two-Story-Fire-Escape-Ladder/10848834

This may be a good investment.


316 posted on 06/14/2017 2:20:51 AM PDT by HollyB
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To: Brown Deer

cheap way for the mooselimbs to kill.
Gallon of petrol poured in the basement of a large building.
Especially in the middle of the night.


317 posted on 06/14/2017 3:48:15 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (President Trump makes obammy look like the punk he is.)
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To: Jane Long

Watching a live news feed last night. Comment was embedded. Have no idea if true


318 posted on 06/14/2017 4:11:34 AM PDT by Donnafrflorida (Thru Him all things are possible.)
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To: Brown Deer
A "stay put" policy? What sense would this make?


319 posted on 06/14/2017 4:28:12 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: DoughtyOne

Met Police presser. 6 dead, number will rise. 74 injured. Giving phone numbers for inquiries and aid...


320 posted on 06/14/2017 4:35:20 AM PDT by mewzilla (Was Obama surveilling John Roberts? Might explain a lot.)
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