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NASA: Key Antarctic Glacier Not Melting As Rapidly
Townhall.com ^ | June 11, 2017 | Matt Vespa

Posted on 06/11/2017 7:47:54 AM PDT by Kaslin

Al Gore thinks the weather has been out of the Book of Revelation, while Time and ABC News have reported that Antarctica is melting very quickly. Now, it’s not (via NASA):

The melt rate of West Antarctica's Thwaites Glacier is an important concern, because this glacier alone is currently responsible for about 1 percent of global sea level rise. A new NASA study finds that Thwaites' ice loss will continue, but not quite as rapidly as previous studies have estimated.
The new study, published in the journal Geophysical Research Letters, finds that numerical models used in previous studies have overestimated how rapidly ocean water is able to melt the glacier from below, leading them to overestimate the glacier's total ice loss over the next 50 years by about 7 percent.

Despite what liberals may say about global warming, science is never a settled issue. That’s what you should glean from this. The studies can be wrong. The models can be wrong. And the question nations face concerning so-called global warming is whether they wan to invest hundreds of billion, if not trillions, of dollars on a group of people who have been wrong before. How much economic growth, decreased standard of living, less prosperity, and the accompanying misery will you artificially inflict among those in your society on predictions that have been grossly inaccurate? In the 1970s, global cooling was the threat that could spell mankind’s doom. Nothing ever happened.

Peter Gwynne has gone back and updated his 1975 Newsweek piece to deny climate change skeptics of using is as ammunition. Still, he had to change it because the science was wrong—and Gwynne admits that. He said that this field of study is always advancing. Yet, if you speak to these green warriors, the issue is settled. There is no more debate. 

I beg to differ.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: antarctica; climatechange; globalcooling; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; trumpsfault
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1 posted on 06/11/2017 7:47:54 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
He really DID make the Earth cool and the seas recede!


2 posted on 06/11/2017 7:55:23 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: BenLurkin; Fred Nerks

The magic negro strikes again?

History will judge him as a liberal fascist, patent psychopomp, who was so full of himself that he caused untold damage to the sovereignty of the United States, and destroyed Europe and Libya, seeding the world with jihadism.

He was in fact, a flaming idiot ideologue.

Good read:

Barrack Obama, The Quintessential Liberal Fascist

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html


3 posted on 06/11/2017 8:03:12 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama Fascism (http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: Kaslin
Updated "climate change" chart:


4 posted on 06/11/2017 8:03:32 AM PDT by PROCON (The Paris Accord was an attempt to get America to sign onto the One World Religion.)
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To: All

Well they have to start explaining why the coasts aren’t under water as they said they would be so here is the beginning of that.


5 posted on 06/11/2017 8:08:25 AM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: Kaslin
the science was wrong

The science was not wrong. The political activists were wrong. Science is science. It examines evidence, poses theories to explain it, and tests those theories against more evidence.

The theory that we would all be drowning by Trump's inauguration has been falsified. We are still alive and kicking.

6 posted on 06/11/2017 8:08:32 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Kaslin
this glacier alone is currently responsible for about 1 percent of global sea level rise.

One percent of ZERO is ZERO. The squirrels in my backyard are also responsible for one percent of the global sea level rise.

Anyone who spends any time near the ocean will tell you that there has been no observable change relative to the land during their lifetime and probably not since reasonably accurate maps were first drawn.

ML/NJ

7 posted on 06/11/2017 8:10:44 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: PROCON
GET BUSY, ALGORE!!


8 posted on 06/11/2017 8:10:50 AM PDT by Slyfox (Where's Reagan when we need him? Look in the mirror - the spirit of The Gipper lives within you.)
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To: Kaslin

Ass Gores fauxcumentary “An incontinent truth” came out 11 years ago and the weather is exactly the same, the oceans aren’t flooding the coast. I live by the Atlantic for over 20 years and the beach isn’t gone, the tide is the same. They should arrest this guy for fraud. All the extra money I was forced to pay in extra taxes because of this scam I want returned.


9 posted on 06/11/2017 8:15:29 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hillary Clinton IS a felon)
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To: Kaslin

There’s a good chance that over the next 50 years some asteroid will hit or some super volcano will erupt or some major solar flare or other major climate changing event will occur which will either result in warming and sea level rises or the opposite.

And then either way the alarmists will use a compliant media to control the narrative - that their predictions were correct and that this intervening event simply sped it up or delayed it, depending on what that event is and does.


10 posted on 06/11/2017 8:21:57 AM PDT by zencycler
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Al Gore is an idiot.


11 posted on 06/11/2017 8:27:33 AM PDT by Kaslin ( The harder the conflict, the more glorious the triump. Thomas Paine)
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To: AndyJackson

bttt


12 posted on 06/11/2017 8:30:25 AM PDT by Kaslin ( The harder the conflict, the more glorious the triump. Thomas Paine)
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To: AndyJackson; ExTexasRedhead

“The science was not wrong. The political activists were wrong. Science is science. It examines evidence, poses theories to explain it, and tests those theories against more evidence.”

Unfortunately for “science,” “Scientists” tend to be Liberal, hence their “drift” from “science” to “politics.” Their behavior is shameful in that they are using their connection to “science” to try and influence our political system. At the end of the day, most of them decry Trump because under Trump a lot of the grants they’ve been getting will be going away.


13 posted on 06/11/2017 8:33:56 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: Kaslin

This reminds me of other stories from a few years ago about melting glaciers in Antarctica. After the stories appeared it was pointed out that at the time the melting was suppose to have been occurring... the average temperatures were far below freezing.

Alarmists like to make claims about the poles because it is more difficult to verify and most people are not cognizant of the actual conditions there. Also our satellites with weather reporting capabilities do not cover the poles well and ground based data is easier to manipulate.


14 posted on 06/11/2017 8:41:30 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: Kaslin
Despite what liberals may say about global warming, science is never a settled issue. That’s what you should glean from this. The studies can be wrong. The models can be wrong.

That's the money quote IMHO. Remember a few years back, about the time the "settled science" mantra began they were sure they understood what was going on. That led to the "settled science" claim.

Well, since then we've learned that hmmm, deep ocean currents may be affecting things in unexpected ways. Oh, and water content in the atmosphere and it's effects were apparently wildly mis-calculated. Then there is the whole 11 year sun-cycle that was apparently significantly not right...

So these models and predictions that they swore were the cat's backside and were predictive... Turns out there were a number of significant, fundamental mistakes. I'm not blaming them, hey, we're human, we make mistakes. So don't try to tell me "...these models are flawless, no, really this time we mean it..." Right. You're Lucy with a football and I'm Charlie Brown.

Even if, and this is a huge if, they have rung-out the last of the fundamental glaring errors with the models... There are no-doubt many, many more modest and subtle errors and problems lurking in there. It is guaranteed, that's just part of large-scale computer modeling. I'm sure the good folks working on them - the real climate scientists - will continue to make progress and improve the models. Meanwhile, we have to acknowledge that they are useless as predictive tools. Seriously. Forecasters cannot predict the weather and minor/local interactions more than a few days out. You expect me to believe you can predict global climate 50 or 100 years from now? You have a far better chance of predicting the teams and scores in the next 100 NFL Super Bowls than you do of getting that right.

15 posted on 06/11/2017 8:42:00 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Doing my part to help make America great again!)
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To: Kaslin

Who shut up the sea behind doors
when it burst forth from the womb,
when I made the clouds its garment
and wrapped it in thick darkness,
when I fixed limits for it
and set its doors and bars in place,
when I said, ‘This far you may come and no farther;
HERE IS WHERE YOUR PROUD WAVES HALT’?

GOD to Job (38)

He set the earth on its foundations;
it can never be moved.
You covered it with the watery depths as with a garment;
the waters stood above the mountains.
But at your rebuke the waters fled,
at the sound of your thunder they took to flight;
they flowed over the mountains,
they went down into the valleys,
to the place you assigned for them.
You set a BOUNDARY they cannot cross;
NEVER AGAIN will they COVER the earth.

Psalm 104


16 posted on 06/11/2017 8:46:56 AM PDT by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: vette6387
under Trump a lot of the grants they’ve been getting will be going away

Actually, the cuts that Trump has imposed on the granting agencies could easily be absorbed by cutting the administrative bureaucracies both at the granting agencies and the awarding institutions.

Like health care and academics, costs have risen not because the practitioners are getting super rich, but because of the exponential growth of the nonpracticing bureaucratic imperative. Just look up "managerialism" on Wikipedia and the sources cited.

It's a cancer.

17 posted on 06/11/2017 9:03:44 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Kaslin
Al didn't say the book Of Revelation, he said "Revelations", just a reminder of why he flunked out of seminary school.
18 posted on 06/11/2017 9:14:33 AM PDT by Smittie (Just like an alien I'm a stranger in a strange land)
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To: AndyJackson

“It’s a cancer.”

Yes, it is, and having put one child through a major private university at a total cost of around $200k, I think it’s long past time when we completely revamped our post-secondary education “system.” “Professors,” are just like the SCOTUS, in that they are over-paid and do very little work.


19 posted on 06/11/2017 9:20:12 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: Kaslin
The models can be wrong.

The very fact that it's "models" plural means that all but one, and perhaps even every single one of them, are wrong.

20 posted on 06/11/2017 9:34:20 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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