Trump’s War With CIA Was Preceded By Kennedy’s

Fairfield Sun Times ^ | March 28 2017 | Frank Miele

[WilliamIII]

The New York Times, in a front-page story, said that the president “wanted to splinter the CIA in a thousand pieces and scatter it to the winds.” Whether that quote is accurate or not we don’t know, but it makes sense that after the agency damaged the president’s reputation so badly, he would react with such anger. If you are a student of history, you already know that the president who swore a vendetta against the Central Intelligence Agency wasn’t Donald Trump, but John F. Kennedy, and that although he did not abolish the agency before his assassination, he did fire its director, Allen Dulles, in an effort to gain control over what was considered a rogue agency that had forced Kennedy’s hand in the Bay of Pigs disaster. The tangled tentacles of the CIA’s machinations wind their way throughout President Kennedy’s shortened term in office, from the Bay of Pigs through the Mafia assassination attempts against Fidel Castro to Kennedy’s own assassination, and then reappear in the Watergate break-in (five of the so-called Watergate “burglars” had connections to the CIA) and in the secret White House tapes where President Nixon is heard telling his chief of staff to tell CIA director Richard Helms that the arrest of the burglars is “likely to blow the whole Bay of Pigs thing which we think would be very unfortunate for CIA and the country at this time, and for American foreign policy.”

[GOPJ]

Good point. That would be even worse - because they should know better.

[M1903A1]

Yes. Eisenhower had no hangups about “plausible deniability” when acting in American interests, especially when its enemies were setting up an outpost offshore.

Kennedy was also the one that drove the last of the wartime OSS generation out of the CIA following the Bay of Pigs debacle.

[Pelham]

McMaster posits Kennedy feeling intimidated by the senior military as his motive for cutting the JCS out of his circle of advisors.

A move that came back to bite him when they weren’t there to warn him not to launch the Bay of Pigs without air cover and sea support.

I can see him sacking the experienced OSS holdovers for the same reason.

JFK was comfortable with the young Ivy League crowd he brought in with him. And with the execrable Robert McNamara. He preferred comfort over experienced counsel and the country paid the price.

LBJ continued Kennedy’s policy of keeping the JCS out of the loop. He had three lawyers design what passed for his Vietnam strategy.

[SecAmndmt]

I do not know specific details about these shootings, but I will agree with you that there are a lot of questions. Cui Bono?

[GOPJ]

Cui Bono?

Good question. Also who would have the old time skills? Sanders might have the skills but he would NOT have the motive or the desire to do something like this... can't think of anyone else with both motive and skills.