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Smart guns wouldn't work either. Well unless you stored them in a faraday cage. 1850, I don't believe, was all that pleasant.
1 posted on 04/26/2017 8:02:05 AM PDT by rktman
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Tiring scare tactics. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.


2 posted on 04/26/2017 8:03:09 AM PDT by proust (Trump / Pence 2016!)
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Here’s a bubba-fied way to make a faraday cage.

http://www.thesurvivalistblog.net/building-a-faraday-cage/


3 posted on 04/26/2017 8:03:28 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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The EMP Threat From North Korea Is Real, and Terrifying

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Paging the “Aw Jeez” Man.

Hasn’t this garbage been bunked and debunked too many times to count over the years?

Yet it keeps coming back up.


4 posted on 04/26/2017 8:05:13 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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Every redneck has a spare microwave sitting somewhere just use that as a Faraday cage.


5 posted on 04/26/2017 8:06:35 AM PDT by miliantnutcase
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Read the series on this by William Forstchen, One Second After


6 posted on 04/26/2017 8:06:41 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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PING!!!

Article and comments,

Thanks, rktman


7 posted on 04/26/2017 8:07:46 AM PDT by Whenifhow (when, if and how will Obama be gone?)
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We just don’t have the money to prepare for an EMP strike.

The money is all tied up in handing out free stuff to lllegal aliens, 4th generation moochers, and muslims who come here to overthrow the country.


8 posted on 04/26/2017 8:09:07 AM PDT by Vlad The Inhaler
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It’s not hard for every home to have water purification on hand ( lifestraw and other means) and to stockpile some medicines ( vitamins and antibiotics) while it’s still possible to obtain them which the govt is attempting to stop


9 posted on 04/26/2017 8:10:07 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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The cheapest way to prevent such a threat is through the concept of Mutually Assured Destruction.

The Little Dictator isn't insane, although he wants everyone to think he is.

14 posted on 04/26/2017 8:17:43 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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Yeah except that the only current manner to produce an EMP is to explode a nuclear bomb...that has world wide consequences that are far worse than losing the grid

Right now the fat boy can’t get a rocket off the launch pad


17 posted on 04/26/2017 8:18:15 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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If the world’s most famous bird-watcher hits the USA with and EMP Weapon, he will get his Kimchi fried.


20 posted on 04/26/2017 8:19:34 AM PDT by donozark (Lock HER up! Lock HIM up! Kick 'em out! Build the wall! GO TRUMP!!)
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The threat is somewhat overrated: you need H-bombs to make an effective EMP weapon. I don’t believe NK has them yet.


30 posted on 04/26/2017 8:32:11 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens")
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Perhaps China or Russia could do this, not North Korea.


33 posted on 04/26/2017 8:34:25 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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Nonsense.
I wish these idiots would do just a bit of research.

1) You need a thermonuclear detonation to create any sizable EMP
2)The higher in the atmosphere, the detonation occurs, the higher the EMP.
3) Large EMP effects only occur with +1MT detonated over 100 miles altitude.

This is part of the reason the Spartan program was canceled.
Sprint would still have worked as the warhead was ~1kt and lower in the atmosphere.

NK has no serious thermonuclear warheads. Only boosted technology limited to 40kt max
Existing yields have been more in the 1kt range.


36 posted on 04/26/2017 8:42:12 AM PDT by Zathras
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If we shoot their satellites out of the sky, it might be more difficult for them to attack us and spy on us.


44 posted on 04/26/2017 8:48:43 AM PDT by Crucial
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Bullcrap!!


59 posted on 04/26/2017 9:07:54 AM PDT by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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Will this get a New Paragraph?

Civil Defense. Even after the advent of nuclear weapons, the civil defense program did not begin in earnest in the United States until 1951, reaching an initial peak of federal interest in the early 1960s, and a second peak in the early 1980s. In both periods, a nuclear civil defense program, whenever it moved beyond mere rhetoric to be seriously supported by high federal officials, immediately elicited general hostility, set the scientific and political elite to arguing in public, and energized peace groups into successful action to discredit the program and return it to its usual marginal status in American life.

President Truman resisted significant funding for civil defense, preferring to save money for weapons, but the beginning of the Korean War and the Soviet Union's development of an atomic bomb led to the creation of the Federal Civil Defense Administration (FCDA) in 1951. Congress continually cut FCDA funding requests by at least half. The agency concentrated on producing propaganda, which it termed “educational material.” A flood of booklets, films, television shows, and media stories sought to convince the American public they could survive a nuclear attack with minor preparations. Meanwhile, many public schools initiated atomic air‐raid drills, teaching children to “Duck and Cover!” in case of nuclear war.

In the Eisenhower era, a series of nuclear bomb tests, in both the Pacific and the American West, dramatized the danger of blast and radioactive fallout. The creation of the H‐bomb convinced many Americans that civil defense was useless. The FCDA shifted from a shelter program to a policy of evacuation of the cities, which was met with public ridicule. From 1955 to 1962, national air‐raid drills called “Operation Alert” were held each year in dozens of major cities. These drills set off major protests nationwide, especially in New York City, where between 1955 and 1961 thousands of people participated in well‐organized civil disobedience efforts to discredit civil defense as a solution to the threat of nuclear annihilation. Several large cities refused to participate in Operation Alert drills, and millions of citizens simply ignored them. In 1958, President Eisenhower, who fully understood the horrific effect of nuclear exchange, ignored a call for a hugely expensive civil defense program issued by his FCDA director and supported by Cold War conservatives. He cut civil defense funds and shut down the FCDA. Despite lack of government financial support, a brief shelter craze occurred in the late fifties and early sixties, largely stimulated by the press and construction firms.

Presidential support for civil defense peaked in the Kennedy administration. Partly because of Kennedy's desire for a “macho” stand, but mostly because of his rivalry with Nelson Rockefeller—a strong supporter of civil defense and Kennedy's expected rival in the election of 1964—Kennedy transferred responsibility for civil defense to the Pentagon and called for an expanded shelter program. Congress appropriated the largest amount ever, $208 million in 1961, for marking and stocking existing shelter spaces such as basements and subways. Unnerved by the dissent and public excitement, Kennedy downplayed civil defense in 1962, especially after Governor Rockefeller's civil defense program was defeated in New York State. The growing peace movement argued effectively that civil defense offered no protection against nuclear missiles and fueled the arms race and the threat of nuclear war. Critics of civil defense also noted the chief function of civil defense propaganda—to legitimate both deterrence policy and the hugely expensive underground shelters reserved for the political, military, and economic elite.

After the Limited Test Ban Treaty of 1963, civil defense all but disappeared, not to be resurrected until 1979 when President Carter, apparently motivated by a false report that the USSR was building a large civil defense program, combined all civil defense actions, including protection against natural disasters, into a new organization called the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA). In the 1980s, during the Reagan years, high federal officials again called for a large civil defense program that would sponsor a mass evacuation of people into rural areas if war seemed imminent. As in the early 1960s, the plan quickly faded in the wake of massive public resistance. [See also Nuclear Strategy; Peace and Antiwar Movements; Propaganda and Public Relations, Government.]

Bibliography

Robert Scheer , With Enough Shovels: Reagan, Bush and Nuclear War, 1982.

Thomas J. Kerr , Civil Defense in the U.S.: Bandaid for a Holocaust?, 1983.

Paul Boyer , By the Bomb's Early Light: American Thought and Culture at the Dawn of the Atomic Age, 1985. Elaine May , Homeward Bound: American Families in the Cold War Era, 1986.

Allan M. Winkler , Life Under a Cloud: American Anxiety About the Atom, 1993.

Dee Garrison , ‘Our Skirts Gave Them Courage’: The Civil Defense Protest Movement in New York City, 1955–1961, in Joanne Meyerowitz, ed., Not June Cleaver: Women and Gender in Postwar America, 1945–1960, 1994.

Guy Oakes , The Imaginary War: Civil Defense and American Cold War Culture, 1994.

86 posted on 04/26/2017 10:01:27 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country.)
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There is a book called The Knowledge, by Lewis Dartnell, that I highly recommend. It explains enough about the physics, chemistry, and mechanics of how things work that, with a little trial-and-error, it would be possible to go from stone-age to mid-1940’s level technology within a single generation. Even if stuff never hits the fan to that degree, the information is useful when designing or repairing anything.

And it’s just a fun read. Although I’m the kind of person who reads how-to books for fun, so opinions may vary.

I don’t know enough to gauge how big a threat North Korea is, but I do know enough to say that the grid can be taken down fairly easily, in many different ways. I’d rather be ready than not.


94 posted on 04/26/2017 10:41:21 AM PDT by Ellendra (Those who kill without reason cannot be reasoned with.)
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Do you really think the globalists that want to rule the world will allow this to happen to America? Can they rule the nation after we have lost our power? How much money will they lose if the power goes out? (Live Free or Die Hard?) What would the world lose if America was gone? Would NK hit SK at the same time? Would NK aim for Alaska or Hawaii? Who would benefit most to take America down in a second or two?

Just wondering.


136 posted on 04/26/2017 8:19:59 PM PDT by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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If you look at the electric grid and what it's susceptible to, we would be moving into a world with no food delivery, no water purification, no banking, no telecommunications, no medicine. All of these things depend on electricity in one way or another.

Interestingly enough, it wouldn't hurt them much anyway.

138 posted on 04/26/2017 8:27:04 PM PDT by Concentrate (ex-texan was right. And Always Right was wrong, which is why we lost the election. ( Pizzagate, Podt)
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