Posted on 04/21/2017 9:24:22 PM PDT by Helicondelta
President Donald Trump’s budget director is threatening to withhold funding for Obamacare subsidies unless Democrats agree to help fund the border wall in the 2017 budget supplemental.
The offer follows weeks of determined Democratic opposition — amid determined waffling by top GOP leaders — to any funding for Trump’s wall during this year.
“We have our list of priorities,” budget director Mick Mulvaney said at a business conference on Thursday. He continued:
Won’t surprise anyone what some of them are. We want more money for defense. We want to build a border wall. We want more money for immigration, law enforcement. The Democrats may have some of their own priorities. I [already] indicated making some of these payments for the Obamacare subsidies is one of their priorities. Okay, that’s fine. We’re willing to be at that discussion if they want to have it and that’s what we’re telegraphing
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We usually agree but you are out lunch on this one. The wall isn't supposed address visa overstays directly. The wall is a force multiplier and will lesson the necessary manpower to keep the "foot" traffic to a minimum, that way more manpower can be used to fight the visa overstay illegals. It all works together as one system. ask the Israelis if they like their wall.
Trump could get 2 wins if this plays out long enough. De-fund 0-care subsidies during shut down and further destabilize 0-care, then to get funding for 0-care, they’ll have to fund the wall.
Government shut downs are good for the economy anyways. It gives business a chance to take a break from the mafia-regulatory State.
Well the dreamers will be happy to be walled in. Amnesty today, wall another day.
Right. Trump won.
Here’s what he should do.
1. Let the government shut down. The media will make a stink, but they do already. Do specific CRs for things like National Parks. Let the bad agencies like EPA, education die on the vine. If little Timmy can still go to Yellowsone for summer vacation, the public won’t notice that the government is in a “shutdown”
2. Stop funding 0-care subsidies. This will provide money for the wall, and hasten the collapse of this horrible law.
3. Build the wall anyways. On what grounds? Base it on national security issues. The wall is a national security issue if there ever was one. Criminal gangs, terrorists, immigrants with diseases. The president already (and some would argue unconsitutionally) takes uni-lateral military action abroad w/o congressional vote, so why not this. You can’t argue that a defensive wall less justified on national security grounds.
If there is no wall, there is no second term.
OMG where do you get such notions?
Just telling you, if there is no wall, no start to a wall. Nothing more than we have now, he will lose a lot of people, including me.
I don’t like politicians that don’t do what they say.
What happened to “make Mexico pay for it?”
We are not there yet.
You must be thrilled that instead of rescinding Obama’s illegal DACA program like he said he would he has decided to make it his own illegal DACA program.
Well, you seem to be against the wall and your argument against it is not very strong.
If visa overstays and refugees were the major source of illegal immigrants we wouldn’t see the largest concentration of illegals in the border states.
The wall wasn’t Trump’s idea. Most republicans have been running on that platform for a long time. It was a part of Mitt Romney’s plan in 2012 and most republican members of congress are in favor of it. This is not going away. Construction will begin this year and someday it will be finished.
The only people against it frankly are the ones near the border states who benefit from cheap labor and drug trafficking. The opposition from democrats is weak and they will cave fast. The unions are all in favor of it.
Walls are not a symbol of decline. Just the opposite. The Romans and the Chinese built walls at the height of their civilizations.
“Well, you seem to be against the wall and your argument against it is not very strong”
I’m very pro wall and have been even before the GOP Congress passed the Secure Fence Act of 2006. You may recall after Congress passed that law the Bush administration opted to waste over $1 billion on a “virtual” fence instead of a physical wall. It is interesting the GOP Congress at the time only appropriate funds for 650 miles of physical barrier and that 650 miles was completed during the Obama administration. All this turned out to be was meaningless pandering to the GOP voter base and a billion dollar contract with Boeing (political payoff perhaps) which ended up being a total waste of taxpayer money.
As you correctly pointed out most Republicans have been saying they support a wall in their campaign rhetoric. Even George W. Bush supported the wall. Of course he also supported amnesty and like his successor was extremely lax in enforcing existing immigration laws. As we saw in 2006, a GOP Congress and GOP president, despite the rhetoric, failed to deliver on their campaign promises. While they say they are in favor of the wall, they never seem to appropriate the money to complete the project they already approved in 2006.
The same players (except Trump) are still running the show. Ryan and McConnell could have brought a border wall bill to a floor vote in the first 30 days of this administration. They are stonewalling and unless Trump delivers on his pledge to get Mexico to pay for the wall, GOP Congressional leaders are slow walking the wall so it will die. Even if conservatives in the House include it in the budget or force a vote on wall specific legislation, it will die in the Senate where there are more than enough GOP senators who will side with the Democrats against the wall. Likely it will simply not emerge from House/Senate conference.
If the wall wasn’t just a fake campaign pledge Trump needs to get on the road using the bully pulpit to pressure Congress. Otherwise the GOP leadership in Congress will not include it in the budget bill.
We’ll see who is right. I hear the same lip service from the GOP leaders in Congress we heard in 2006. However, to date there is no action. The new budget year begins October 1. Where’s the beef?
Nonsense. Trump is a producer/builder by trade. Don’t displace Establishment malfeasance onto Trump’s shoulders.
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I totally agree! Don’t blame Trump for the establishment. Tell the establishment politicians to SHAPE UP or they will be SHIPPED OUT! There is a new sheriff in town backed by the deplorables.
House + Senate = Congress
I don’t care too much about DACA. I understand that its a problem. But its hardly the first priority. Stopping children is not an issue if everyone can get through. He said every time at every rally and every interview that he was building a wall. We want the flow to be cut off. Thats our wall. Nobody coming over the boarder without permission. Then we want the gangs and drugs out. If he stopped there I would be happy. But then I would like the rest of the criminals out. I want everybody else obeying the laws. And then we can figure out what to do with the rest. But that is not important when you are having a free flow of people, crime, guns and drugs over the boarder. DACA is very low priority.
2018 remember the names.
That’s a shoot first, ask questions later perimeter.
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