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Former intelligence specialist group agree with Russian explanation of Syrian Chem Attack
Consortium News ^ | April 11, 2017 | "Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS)"

Posted on 04/11/2017 4:49:55 PM PDT by rod5591

"Our U.S. Army contacts in the area have told us...There was no Syrian “chemical weapons attack.” Instead, a Syrian aircraft bombed an al-Qaeda-in-Syria ammunition depot that turned out to be full of noxious chemicals and a strong wind blew the chemical-laden cloud over a nearby village where many consequently died.

This is what the Russians and Syrians have been saying and – more important –what they appear to believe happened."

(Excerpt) Read more at consortiumnews.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: chemattack; falseflag; france; kerry; nigerflap; plamenamegame; syrianwar; trumpsyria; valerieplame; vips; yellowcake
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"Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS)"--A handful of CIA veterans established VIPS in January 2003 after concluding that Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld had ordered our former colleagues to manufacture intelligence to “justify” an unnecessary war with Iraq.

Anyone familiar with this group? Members are: Eugene D. Betit, Intelligence Analyst, DIA, Soviet FAO, (US Army, ret.) William Binney, Technical Director, NSA; co-founder, SIGINT Automation Research Center (ret.) Marshall Carter-Tripp, Foreign Service Officer and former Office Director in the State Department Bureau of Intelligence and Research, (ret.) Thomas Drake, Senior Executive Service, NSA (former) Robert Furukawa, Capt, CEC, USN-R, (ret.) Philip Giraldi, CIA, Operations Officer (ret.) Mike Gravel, former Adjutant, top secret control officer, Communications Intelligence Service; special agent of the Counter Intelligence Corps and former United States Senator Matthew Hoh, former Capt., USMC, Iraq and Foreign Service Officer, Afghanistan (associate VIPS) Larry C. Johnson, CIA & State Department (ret.) Michael S. Kearns, Captain, USAF (Ret.); ex-Master SERE Instructor for Strategic Reconnaissance Operations (NSA/DIA) and Special Mission Units (JSOC) John Brady Kiesling, Foreign Service Officer (ret.) John Kiriakou, former CIA analyst and counterterrorism officer, and former senior investigator, Senate Foreign Relations Committee Linda Lewis, WMD preparedness policy analyst, USDA (ret.) (associate VIPS) David MacMichael, National Intelligence Council (ret.) Ray McGovern, former US Army infantry/intelligence officer & CIA analyst (ret.) Elizabeth Murray, Deputy National Intelligence Officer for Near East, CIA and National Intelligence Council (ret.) Torin Nelson, former Intelligence Officer/Interrogator, Department of the Army Todd E. Pierce, MAJ, US Army Judge Advocate (Ret.) Coleen Rowley, FBI Special Agent and former Minneapolis Division Legal Counsel (ret.) Scott Ritter, former MAJ., USMC, and former UN Weapon Inspector, Iraq Peter Van Buren, U.S. Department of State, Foreign Service Officer (ret.) (associate VIPS) Kirk Wiebe, former Senior Analyst, SIGINT Automation Research Center, NSA Robert Wing, former Foreign Service Officer Ann Wright, U.S. Army Reserve Colonel (ret)

1 posted on 04/11/2017 4:49:55 PM PDT by rod5591
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To: rod5591

William Scott Ritter Jr. (born July 15, 1961) was a United Nations weapons inspector in Iraq from 1991 to 1998, and later a critic of United States foreign policy in the Middle East. Prior to the invasion of Iraq in March 2003, Ritter stated that Iraq possessed no significant weapons of mass destruction (WMD) capabilities, becoming “the loudest and most credible skeptic of the Bush administration’s contention that Hussein was hiding weapons of mass destruction.”[1] He received harsh criticism from the political establishment but became a popular antiwar figure and occasional talk show commentator as a result of his stance, later proven to be correct.

In 2001 Ritter on two occasions was detained and later arrested on charges of soliciting minors for sex on the Internet that were both dismissed.[2] He was arrested on similar charges in 2010 that led to a conviction and sentence of one and a half to five and a half years.[3]


2 posted on 04/11/2017 4:55:56 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Everywhere is freaks and hairies Dykes and fairies Tell me where is sanity?)
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To: Jeff Chandler

I see Scott Ritter is out of jail. I usually don’t quote sexual predator pedophiles but whatever floats your boat.


3 posted on 04/11/2017 4:57:53 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: Jeff Chandler

Seems to make sense. Ritter is one turd in the group. Not tossing the baby out with the bathwater.


4 posted on 04/11/2017 4:58:37 PM PDT by CincyRichieRich (Drain the swamp. Build the wall. Open the Pizzagate. I refuse to inhabit any safe space.)
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To: rod5591

Accidental release of active gas seems very unlikely. Far more likely options are:

(1) ISIS wanted to derail the “peace talks” and grab for more by releasing gas and blaming it on Assad, so they gassed their own children, or

(2) Assad wanted to derail the “peace talks” and keep more or all of his country by releasing gas and blaming it on ISIS, so he gassed his own people.

We cannot know which it is, although I find the phrase “peace talks” to be silly when neither side wants more than a brief pause in the fighting until they win a total victory.


5 posted on 04/11/2017 4:59:25 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: Jeff Chandler

You lost me at “Scott Ritter”.

CC


6 posted on 04/11/2017 4:59:49 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (CC: purveyor of cryptic, snarky posts since December, 2000..)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Not my favorite guy. Many FReepers will remember this one.

Scott Ritter Charged in Child Sex Sting

http://www.constantinereport.com/scott-ritter-caught-in-child-sex-sting/

More for the asking:

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&as_q=William+Scott+Ritter+Jr+molestation&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&lr=&cr=&as_qdr=all&as_sitesearch=&as_occt=any&safe=images&as_filetype=&as_rights=


7 posted on 04/11/2017 4:59:53 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (NeverTrump, a movement that was revealed to be a movement. Thank heaven we flushed!)
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To: rod5591

“Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush are hailed as honorable leaders, rather than viewed as politicians who countenanced gross abuses of power.”

- Consortiumnews.com from their “About” page here:

https://consortiumnews.com/about/


8 posted on 04/11/2017 5:04:04 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (The Washington Post is Jeff Bezos' Fake News unregulated SuperPAC.)
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To: rod5591

The only problem with what they are trying to foist off on us here, is that Trump stated Assad has used gas a number of times in recent months.

Thus I am tasked with believing Assad’s planes just happened to hit numerous caches of chemical weapons each of those times over recent months.

Sorry. No sale!

Assad was playing fast a loose, and he got taken to task for it.

What next? Are we going to see reports from the wives of various people to confirm Assad couldn’t have done it?


9 posted on 04/11/2017 5:05:41 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (NeverTrump, a movement that was revealed to be a movement. Thank heaven we flushed!)
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To: lodi90

Are you operating under the misapprehension that I am endorsing Ritter? I saw the list from this group and recognized his name, then looked him up and pasted his info here.

You’re welcome.


10 posted on 04/11/2017 5:06:36 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Everywhere is freaks and hairies Dykes and fairies Tell me where is sanity?)
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Gravel Democrat apparatchik, former US senator

As a Senator, Gravel became nationally known for his forceful but unsuccessful attempts to end the draft during the War in Vietnam and for putting the Pentagon Papers into the public record in 1971 at some risk to himself. He conducted an unusual campaign for the Democratic nomination in 1972 for Vice President of the United States,

Read more:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Gravel


11 posted on 04/11/2017 5:07:12 PM PDT by Calusa (Let our children be dreamers, too! Donald Trump (and Kellyanne Conway))
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To: Jeff Chandler

Gravel Democrat apparatchik, former US senator

As a Senator, Gravel became nationally known for his forceful but unsuccessful attempts to end the draft during the War in Vietnam and for putting the Pentagon Papers into the public record in 1971 at some risk to himself. He conducted an unusual campaign for the Democratic nomination in 1972 for Vice President of the United States,

Read more:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Gravel


12 posted on 04/11/2017 5:07:13 PM PDT by Calusa (Let our children be dreamers, too! Donald Trump (and Kellyanne Conway))
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To: rod5591

Sarin does not work that way; according to weapons expert, Thomas Wictor:
“Sarin released in a warehouse would touch metal and produce hydrogen, which would create a massive fireball and incinerate the nerve agent.”


13 posted on 04/11/2017 5:08:25 PM PDT by lobelia
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To: rod5591

Chemical weapons bombs are highly specialized devices because conventional explosions do not lead to useful dispersal and tend to burn up or over-dilute the chemical components. And that is more or less what would have happened if a munitions deport with nerve gas weapons was blown up.


14 posted on 04/11/2017 5:09:40 PM PDT by Rockingham
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15 posted on 04/11/2017 5:10:57 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

I don’t remember clearly now, but didn’t Ritter at one point say he thought Hussein had WMDs, and then do a 180?

Here’s an old Time article:

http://content.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,351165,00.html


16 posted on 04/11/2017 5:11:57 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (NeverTrump, a movement that was revealed to be a movement. Thank heaven we flushed!)
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To: Jeff Chandler

When I came down the thread, I at first thought you posted the thread.

The format of the area did fool me a bit.


17 posted on 04/11/2017 5:13:39 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (NeverTrump, a movement that was revealed to be a movement. Thank heaven we flushed!)
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To: rod5591

Even if true, makes no difference.


18 posted on 04/11/2017 5:20:21 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: Jeff Chandler

B.S. Bombing Sarin gas destroys it. The two components will not mix properly in an uncontrolled blast.

#fakenews #russiawilltrollyou


19 posted on 04/11/2017 5:36:58 PM PDT by 13foxtrot
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To: rod5591

Just ask yourself who stood to benefit from this.


20 posted on 04/11/2017 5:45:12 PM PDT by McGruff (You break it, you bought it)
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