Posted on 04/08/2017 2:11:46 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Let's see if this does the trick.
House Republican leaders, looking to jump-start their floundering effort to repeal and replace Obamacare, on Thursday said they were proposing creating a $15 billion federal high-risk pool that would provide insurance coverage to Americans with pre-existing and often serious health issues.
Speaker Paul Ryan said the provision would "lower premiums" for other, healthier people who buy individual health plans by shifting the risk of covering higher health-care users to the federal risk pool.
Ryan, R-Wis., also said it "gets us closer together, closer to that consensus" needed to pass the GOP replacement bill.
But, "I want to be clear: we still have more work to do," Ryan told reporters.
The federal pool, which would be funded with $15 billion, would be replaced by individual state-run high-risk pools in 2020.
It is far from clear whether the inclusion of the provision — which is based on the state of Maine's high-risk pool — in the American Health Care Act bill would do enough to garner the Republican votes needed to pass that legislation, and send it to the Senate for review.....
(Excerpt) Read more at cnbc.com ...
I am shocked by the people on this site that think we qualify for Medicaid just because we have an insurance problem.
It may be something like you have to show where you are denied health insurance due to preexisting condition to fit into whatever program Ryan comes up with.
Correct me if I’m wrong but wouldn’t this be another welfare program that will grow exponentially over time?
Also, what prevents everyone from getting in this pool that taxpayers pay for? What are the qualifications to join?
Yes I’m kind of afraid you’ll have to document 2 refusals or something like that, which would just be jumping through hoops and delaying things.
You bring up a good point. As a kid in 1965 I broke my arm being a kid climbing a tree. My Dad was a Sr. Mgr at a family owned factory (we were not owner family). We had no insurance back then, nobody did. Dad paid the $400 to fix my arm ($3000 today) out of his pocket. Six weeks in a cast X-rays etc.
Medicare was just starting and covered my Grandma’s heart attack but was a nightmare for Mom and Dad from a paperwork perspective, but it got paid.
You can apply online for insurance and get your denial pretty quickly. It is still hoops you have to jump through.
But for example, you can go to ehealthinsurance.com...apply..and due to boxes you will check it may even be same day. ..or automatic.
I know that sleep apnea is on the list of pretty easy..you are out type of denials. So it’s fast.
Oh I see, thanks.
You sir, and your parents, paid your premiums in full.
It seems to me that many if not most people with UN-insurable pre-existing conditions if they to continue to be untreated, would not be able to work and would be disabled and qualified for SS disability.
Wouldn’t that cover most of them?
“If Pres. Trump CONTINUES to support Soros and Gorelick through his son in law, and CONTINUES to deny repealing ObamaCARE through theliar-Ryan, his supporters
will be evanescent.”
Been reading this kind of nonsense last 2 days.
My recommendation: More tinfoil.
If true, quit the charade and just go single payer for all. That’s exactly what this will become.
There are only two solutions that work (in theory):
1. A Universal pool of insureds spreads the risk optimally. Of course, the gov involvement overlays huge administrative inefficiencies. In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.
2. A completely free market. Suppliers and consumers meet to negotiate coverages and prices and self assemble to effect contracts that work. This is hard work, but allows for experimentation and creativity. Short term potential for growing pains and horror stories, but also an optimal solution for freedom, since no one is forced to participate at the point of a gun.
For the past 50 years, we have been sliding from option 2 toward option 1 due to propaganda that makes all illnesses not our own fault. If we cannot or will not return to scenario 2, then just stop and fully embrace 1. At least then we can stand up a black market for those of us who are willing and able to pay for efficient care.
He was fully involved in three wars. Back then we went to a military hospital. Had my tonsils taken out and “lazy eye” operated on in the children’s ward at March Air Force Base, even though my father was a Marine.
Have you ever tried getting on Social Security disability?
Democrat President Jared Kushner gave us ...
o Obamacare 2.0
o TPP returning again
o Trash talk Bannon
o Global Warming returning
o Soros bribes & cheap loans
Hey Ivanka, your husband is a political disaster. All because you both want acceptance and conformity with your rich liberal social circle.
Are you both really that insecure emotionally??
Why does the feds need to be involved? Just block-grant the money, along with Medicare/Medicaid, to the states completely and let the states work out deals with private health insurers to insure those with pre-existing conditions.
“House Republicans propose federal high-risk pool in bid to jump-start Obamacare replacement bill”
Without requiring (pass legislation) that the thieving leftist hospital administrators and quacks post prices for all medical procedures, the free market can’t assume control of medical care.
Insurance sure as hell won’t do it.
The government taking control won’t work.
What is the dollar price to walk into every hospital or doctor’s office to look at a rash on an arm?
How many dollars to deliver a baby?
What does it cost, in exact dollars, for bypass surgery?
Every hospital and doctor knows the price of all medical care down to the penny, as evidenced by bills received by patients across the country.
Post those prices!
Can you prove even ONE of those bullet points? I guess I shouldn’t be surprised that so many of you are ready to abandon Trump before he even reaches the 100 day mark. I didn’t support him in the primaries, but once he had the nomination I was all in and haven’t looked back. Just the fact that he got Gorsuch in is worth everything that we’ve had to go through. But I guess you folks are of the “glass is half empty” persuasion.
While I agree a large percentage of PEC's are self inflicted, something needs to be done. For example, my son was diagnosed with Type 1 Diabetes at age 13. Nothing he did wrong, his pancreas just stopped working. What is someone like he supposed to do if he lost his job or whatever? Should he have to stay in a crappy job to not lose insurance? Or should he give up the dream of entrepreneurship because he cant afford his own health care? He misses his meds and in a few days, he's dead. And insulin, test strips, needles, etc arent cheap unfortunately! . Just dont know the right answer either. There is some happy medium between not making the lazy lazier, and helping out those who through no fault of their own, are what they are.
I have a friend who is 42 and was shot in the eye when she was 8 years old. I’ve known her to have 4 or 5 seizures a week recently. (has a glass eye, BTW)
How do you hold a waitress job with seizures? She tries, but keeps getting let go...
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