Posted on 03/26/2017 8:20:43 PM PDT by blueplum
House Freedom Caucus chairman Rep. Mark Meadows on Sunday shrugged off taunts from President Trump, saying that health care reform was still alive and that congressional Republicans would aim to pass legislation for Trump to sign. Friday's failure on healthcare legislation, the North Carolina Republican said, does not mean that the effort to replace Obamacare is dead. "To put a stake in it today would not be accurate," the North Carolina Repubican said on ABC's This Week, explaining that the intra-party conversations in the past two days have been about regrouping on healthcare. He said that it will be the responsibility of
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Hmm....what does HFC when confronted with these facts?
The house leadership with Obamacare lite is as useless as the democrats.
I see Mr. Trump's out reach to the moderate democrats as a way to building a coalition within the house of members from both parties willing to act on the Will of the people.
Did no one see what happened on election day? Many disgusted citizens came out and voted for the first time. They need to be listened to and acted upon. They will vote again, they have found a new power.
If this keeps up, we need to start an America First Party and pull honest legislators out of both the dems and repubs.
Remember the election, when we won and they lost? Well, on this issue, we have lost. Why can't people see that? It is almost as bad as folks not accepting Trump won.
Trump will probably have to see if he can get a bi-partisan effort to "fix" Obamacare without the repeal. If the Dems refuse, then Trump can be clear of the issue. Otherwise, the GOP and Trump own the coming disaster.
Nor the medium- nor far-term.
it would be a political disaster for the GOP Congress and President Trump to come up with an "American Health Care Reform Act" in the spring of 2017 -- only to have catastrophic increases in insurance premiums showing up again in the fall of 2017 when the 2018 renewals showed up in mailboxes all over the country.
Spot on. The Freedom Caucus saved us from a debacle not only of principle but of practice.
Repeal Ocare and start the clock running. Necessity is the mother of invention.
And that’s when Dems propose a public option and find shocking support from the President.
I think the odds are 50/50 that Trump gives the Democrats what Obama and Clinton couldn’t deliver on Obamacare.
That is an inaccurate rendition.
Trump wants the marketplace to offer plans that keep kids on their parents insurance so consumers can choose those plans or not. He wants there to be a way for people who have pre-existing conditions to be insured.
He has not stated what solution to this problem he favors, but I would bet he thinks competition will drive policies to be written that spell out coverage for pre-existing conditions and that a State pool may help with costs. He has spoken of a saftey net so that no one will be denied healthcare. VA??Medicaid??State pools.
Lots of ways to work on these issues without branding Trump as a Big G’vt giveaway type.
Larry, check out this post by Owen.
Does this ring true? If true, I find the HFC positioning problematic. What say you?
Yes.
All I got from Team Trump was very short responses that led me to think HFC was not playing ball or negotiating in good faith. But I do not have details, nor should I.
With something like 50% of the U.S. population on either Medicare or Medicaid, it would be disingenuous to deny that we already have a public option.
True the Dems own this monster.
The high premiums are causing some people to drop their ins.
I don’t have the answer, but think it was better before Obamacare.
The simple truth is that Americans can't afford the standard of health care that we've come to expect as our God-given entitlement. Any insurance plan that doesn't recognize that uncomfortable fact is doomed to fail.
Republicans are big government, tax, borrow and spend Democrats of yesteryear. They are no longer the party of low taxes and less government. They are on the public tit as much as the out of the closet leftist.
He will find moderate Democrats listed next to dodo in the extinct species list.
I saw a quote from Bannon to the effect about insurance companies writing the bill, but I’m not sure what ya’ll mean by insurance companies profiting?
The bill eliminates the device tax on implants, prosthetics and other medical devices, repeals $29B in taxes on prescription drug makers, and cuts $145M in taxes on insurance companies (but they will lose is it ?24M insured?). These are taxes are passed on to the consumer, and so to our benefit if they disappear.
Are you arguing to keep these taxes in place? or is the insurance thing about premiums?
you’ve almost got it but you left out cost-shifting
It’s not uncommon for hospitals to have 3 levels of billing:
1) cash - billed at the highest rate possible (really overcharged)
2) insured - billed above medic-aid/medicare rates (overcharged)
3) medic-aid/medicare - billed at medicare rates (undercharged)
Because hospitals are locked into medicare rates, they overcharge the insured and cash people (uninsured) by cost-shifting. The more medic-aid/medicare they treat, the more costs transferred. (We’ve all heard the $4 aspirin in hospital!). Some hospitals in Florida are seeing 20 overdoses a day - crisis uninsured requiring ICU resources. Only a portion of those costs are reimbursed by the govt. Cost-shifting is probably the largest contributor to premium increases. Unnecessary diagnostics (MRI happy, for instance) is also up there as a contributor.
Ok!! lol. One bright spot in all this so far is, the House is getting a lesson on how to put in a full day's work. I don't believe I've ever seen so many congresscritters in motion at the same time!
” or is the insurance thing about premiums?”
premium increases and keeping ALL of the obamacare policy requirements paid for with those premiums, huge windfalls all.
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