Trump is not the only one.
We have a sizable group on this forum who have now decided to trash the Freedom Caucus.
Ryan and the GOPe did exactly what I predicted last year.
If they couldn’t defeat Trump at the polls, their last ditch effort would likely be to circumvent his goals with fake “Conservative” legislation.
Here is was. It didn’t pass, but now folks have fallen for it even here, and this has split Conservatism right down the middle.
Half think Ryan and the GOPe areb now their best buds.
Holy Cow..., winning isn’t everything.
You must win by pushing something worthy of having as part of the mix.
This wasn’t worth having.
Ryan should have come out with repeal right off the bat.
The fact that he didn’t should tell folks all they need to know.
The GOPe wants a big government plan. So do the other Leftists.
Not just no, but hell no.
I wouldn’t back it under Obama and I won’t back it under Trump.
I support Trump, but I do so within limits.
This crossed the line.
Right on with all of your posts on this thread.
I agree with your post (#43).
At this point in time, Trump appears to be doing his best to divide his base. He’s embracing the guys that tried to screw him during the election.
I’m tired of having to deny my common sense in defending SOME of the things he’s doing, and being told, “This is the Art of the Deal.” His deal is helping to divide his base!
“The GOPe wants a big government plan. So do the other Leftists.”
I contend the vast majority of the American people want a big government plan. Americans like their benefits.
They just don’t like paying for them.
I await the day a “true conservative” actually proposes the taxes necessary to provide all the services the American people demand, without deficit.
And I actually believe that would be a conservative position to take. To force the American people as a whole to wake up to their unreasonable demands.
Am with you. Note how he used vets as a campaign backdrop (actually held a fund raiser for vets while dodging one of the debates). Didn't take him long to show his true colors.
We have a sizable group on this forum who have now decided to trash the Freedom Caucus.
Donald J. Trump defeated Hillary Clinton and her constition destroying SCOTUS. Please refresh my memory: what is this “freedom caucus” hanging their hat on other than accomplish nothing beltway kabuki.
“Ryan should have come out with repeal right off the bat.
The fact that he didn’t should tell folks all they need to know.”
Exactly, how many times did the repeal bill passed? it ended up on Obama’s desk with eventual veto of course. So now, why isn’t there just a repeal bill sitting on Trump’s desk? is this just a kabuki show? IF they were going to pass this shit sandwich and fix it later. Why can’t they just pass the repeal and fix the replacement later? That has a better chance of passing as we can see from history.
amen brother.
Bump the that, friend!!
On this issue, Trump never even pretended to be on the conservative side. He even openly blasted conservatives from the campaign podium. I don’t disagree with your assessment of the bill that was put forward, but your pretending President Trump’s own fingerprints weren’t all over it is absurd. If anything he was forced partially to the right on this...he proclaimed that it was government’s job to “take of everybody” and conservatives were just going to have get used to it. Those words came straight out of his mouth...so why act surprised and put all of the blame on Ryan like the President was hoodwinked? And President Trump is the one openly blasting conservative members of Congress and conservative organizations for not supporting the bill. You don’t even acknowledge this as part of the equation for how people are reacting.
As you know I’ve never been a big Trump fan - but - if he continues to appoint conservative judges, and so far he has, he will have kept enough of his promises. But this issue is one of the big reasons I was against him in the primary...saying it was the government’s job to take care of everybody and blasting conservatives “We’ve got to take care of everybody - get used to it, conservatives!” was not exactly a line indicating he is in line with conservative ideology and not a line making me inclined to support him - if he’s openly going to attack conservatives and what they stand for that is not appealing. However, his supporters in the crowd cheered the line.