Posted on 03/14/2017 8:39:46 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
Every time I see an interview discussing 2016 surveillance of the Trump Campaign and candidate Donald Trump I keep going back to that November 17th, 2016, Trump Tower visit by NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers.
No-one in the Obama chain-of-command knew Director Rogers was going to meet with President-Elect Trump; Rogers did it entirely on his own impetus, and James Clapper was furious in the aftermath.
Additionally, Admiral Mike Rogers is still running the NSA. President Trump has made no effort to replace him.
“Three intelligence sources have informed Fox News that President Obama went outside the chain of command. He didn’t use the NSA. He didn’t use the CIA. He didn’t use the FBI, and he didn’t use Department of Justice. He used GCHQ. What the heck is GCHQ? That’s the initials for the British spying agency. They have 24/7 access to the NSA database. So by simply having two people go to them saying, ‘President Obama needs transcripts of conversations involving candidate Trump, conversations involving president-elect Trump,’ he’s able to get it, and there’s no American fingerprints on this.”
~ Judge Andrew Napolitano
If what Napolitano’s sources are saying is true, then it’s even more confirmation of our hunch in an earlier timeline. NSA Director Mike Rogers didn’t want to participate in, or give aid in relationship to, the surveillance scheme. Consequently, the Obama White House worked around Rogers with another source, British Government Communications Head Quarters (GCHQ), for the same information.
In 2013 Edward Snowden released information the UK GCHQ was being party funded by the U.S. NSA to the tune of over £100 million:
[…] The funding underlines the closeness of the relationship between GCHQ and its US equivalent, the National Security Agency. But it will raise fears about the hold Washington has over the UK’s biggest and most important intelligence agency, and whether Britain’s dependency on the NSA has become too great. (link)
January 23rd, 2017, three days after President Trump’s inauguration, the head of the U.K. General Communications Head Quarters (GCHQ) unexpectedly resigns:
Robert Hannigan, the director of GCHQ, has resigned from his job as head of one of the three Government intelligence agencies after just two years.
GCHQ would only say that Mr Hannigan had left his post for “personal reasons” and that he was not sacked or subject to disciplinary proceedings. (link)
[Previously] In hindsight, NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers may have notified Team Trump of Obama’s Intelligence Community (James Clapper and John Brennan) involvement or engagement in surveillance activity.
As you look at the dates below, it’s important to note that NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers would be keenly aware of both the June FISA request – Denied, and the October request – Granted. Pay specific attention to the October request. “October”!.
June 2016: FISA request. The Obama administration files a request with the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISA) to monitor communications involving Donald Trump and several advisers. The request, uncharacteristically, is denied.
October 2016: FISA request. The Obama administration submits a new, narrow request to the FISA court, now focused on a computer server in Trump Tower suspected of links to Russian banks. No evidence is found — but the wiretaps continue, ostensibly for national security reasons.
Andrew McCarthy at National Review later notes. The Obama administration is now monitoring an opposing presidential campaign using the high-tech surveillance powers of the federal intelligence services.
♦ On Tuesday November 8th, 2016 the election was held. Results announced Wednesday November 9th, 2016.
♦ On Thursday November 17th, 2016, NSA Director Mike Rogers traveled to New York and met with President-Elect Donald Trump.
♦ On Friday November 18th The Washington Post reported on a recommendation in “October” that Mike Rogers be removed from his NSA position:
The heads of the Pentagon and the nation’s intelligence community have recommended to President Obama that the director of the National Security Agency, Adm. Michael S. Rogers, be removed.
The recommendation, delivered to the White House last month, was made by Defense Secretary Ashton B. Carter and Director of National Intelligence James R. Clapper Jr., according to several U.S. officials familiar with the matter.
[…] In a move apparently unprecedented for a military officer, Rogers, without notifying superiors, traveled to New York to meet with Trump on Thursday at Trump Tower. That caused consternation at senior levels of the administration, according to the officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal personnel matters. (link)
Remember, historically The Washington Post is the preferred outlet for the CIA and Intelligence Community within Deep State to dump their “leaks” and stories. [The State Department “leaks” to CNN for the same purposes.]
♦ On Saturday November 19th Reuters reported on the WaPo Story and additional pressure by Defense Secretary Ash Carter and DNI James Clapper to fire Mike Rogers.
[…] The Washington Post reported that a decision by Rogers to travel to New York to meet with Trump on Thursday without notifying superiors caused consternation at senior levels of the administration, but the recommendation to remove him predated his visit. (link)
If you just look at the timeline of activity a picture emerges:
Occam’s Razor. NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers didn’t want to participate in the spying scheme (Clapper, Brennan, Etc.), which was the baseline for President Obama’s post presidency efforts to undermine Donald Trump and keep Trump from digging into the Obama labyrinth underlying his remaining loyalists. After the October spying or surveillance operation went into effect, Rogers unknown loyalty was a risk to the Obama objective. 10 Days after the election Rogers travels to President-Elect Trump without notifying those who were involved in the intel scheme.
Did NSA Director Mike Rogers wait for a SCIF (Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility) to be set up in Trump Tower, and then notify the President-elect he was being monitored by a group representing President Obama’s interests?
Absolutely.
The fat lady appears to be British and it looks like obamster used her to try to get around US law.
Well if it were Hillary ordering all of this Rogers would be dead by now.
Yes. all true.
BINGO! We have a winner.
Well, while I have not seen him in over 35 years, I personally knew Rogers as a friend in college. I can vouch for that time period that he was a great and stand up guy.
We did not keep up after graduation. He was off to do his Naval duty. I had occasionally wondered over the years if he had done well.
Judging by the title of this thread, he apparently is still a stand up guy, in addition to being a Patriot.
While I cannot comment personally on Comey, I do know someone who does know him. They think highly of him, and believe he will do what is right.
Hope this helps change your opinion on these two.
You know they are.
There was never any doubt about Rogers.
Though, I would grant her the option of firing squad.
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Make it pay-per-view and we will be out of debt.
WHEN WILL OBAMA BE ARRESTED?
Didn’t think so, but D2 seemed to have him in the same category as the other 3.
TREASON!
That seems to imply the Republicans are honorable and never attempted to subvert or game the system.
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Obama is not alone. I don’t even think he is #1. Not disagreeing with your post, mind you. He did not get where he was by himself. He was purchased. The fact that Val moved in proves he still is not a leader. Just propagandized as one for the past 9 years. A celebrity with a pen, that is all.
The question is, why did Zer0 engage in this illegal activity if all the polls said that der Hildebeast had it in the bag?
Answer: The polls were fake to make the “stupid” Americans think she was a winner. The inside polls knew the situation was different.
WTF?
Her husband wasn't running for anything.
“That seems to imply the Republicans are honorable and never attempted to subvert or game the system.”
How so? What Republicans? The Republicans voters, or the those elected to office?
If it ‘implies’ anything, it implies the Republicans have been on the receiving end of the very abuse I described.
For elected Republicans, I sense they have been as corrupted as they have been coerced. Nothing can convince me that John Roberts has not been totally compromised.
Paul Ryan — who does he serve? It’s not me. It’s not his constituents. Who is it that motivates him? What is it that motivates him?
There is a cancer in our midst. We have a new and improved chemotherapy. It’s Donald J. Trump.
Painful - Yes. Hard to watch - Yes. Poisonous - Depends on the results. Regardless of the process to be rid of this cancer, the pain, the ugliness, the perceived will to fight, the outcome of life or death, this cancer will be dealt with.
Many Republicans are infected and abused by this cancer!
Yep, that's what the title says. But the story basically says it's a hunch Rogers provided Trump with the information, which is based on timelines, etc. I have seen no evidence Rogers turned colleagues or provided Trump with the whodoneit. You could be correct. I just haven't seen anything to confirm it in regards to this story.
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