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Abandon ship: Conservative groups and think tanks turn on House GOP’s ObamaCare bill
Hotair ^ | 03/07/2017 | AllahPundit

Posted on 03/07/2017 1:57:03 PM PST by SeekAndFind

Heritage Action and the Club for Growth and Americans for Prosperity and FreedomWorks are all thumbs down? Who said conservatives don’t stand up to Trump anymore?

Here’s the statement from Heritage, which Matt Welch describes as the “in-house think tank for the Trump administration.”

“In many ways, the House Republican proposal released last night not only accepts the flawed progressive premises of Obamacare but expands upon them. Ronald Reagan once said, ‘Government’s view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.’ The AHCA does all three.

“Many Americans seeking health insurance on the individual market will notice no significant difference between the Affordable Care Act (i.e., Obamacare) and the American Health Care Act. That is bad politics and, more importantly, bad policy.

“Rather than accept the flawed premises of Obamacare, congressional Republicans should fully repeal the failed law and begin a genuine effort to deliver on longstanding campaign promises that create a free market health care system that empowers patients and doctors.”

I don’t believe I’ve seen one major Republican player outside the congressional leadership say they support the House GOP bill this morning — with one very important exception, and even he’s sufficiently nervous to have framed the bill as a mere starting point for “negotiation”:

Our wonderful new Healthcare Bill is now out for review and negotiation. ObamaCare is a complete and total disaster – is imploding fast!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 7, 2017

The whole point of this rollout, though, is that there’s not going to be negotiation. McConnell made that plain this morning in saying that they’re going to vote ASAP. The bill wouldn’t survive a free-for-all in which the disparate centrist and conservative factions within the GOP are suddenly making demands for amendments. The only way this has a chance of getting passed is via a gut check, with McConnell and Ryan practically daring the critics in their caucuses to vote no and kill the GOP’s first, and maybe best, chance at repeal. That’s why the statements from Heritage et al. are so important: Activist groups are showing wary Republicans in Congress that they’ll have some grassroots support if they defy Trump and the congressional leadership by voting this thing down. It’s the first major rebellion on the right against the administration since Trump was sworn in. And it makes his reaction important. If conservatives end up muscling him into turning against the House plan, it’ll be taken as evidence that they can do it on other policies if they act in concert.

In fact, Trump’s already signaling that revisions, in the form of another “phase” of the process, might be in the offing:

Don't worry, getting rid of state lines, which will promote competition, will be in phase 2 & 3 of healthcare rollout. @foxandfriends

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 7, 2017

You can’t get to phase two unless phase one passes the House and Senate, and right now it sure looks as though the votes aren’t there. Rand Paul has already pronounced the bill “dead on arrival” and it’s hard to disagree given the volume of attacks. How do Trump and Ryan turn the momentum around amid an avalanche of criticism from both the left and right? At a minimum, Paul and Mike Lee sound like firm “no” votes in the Senate, leaving McConnell with no margin for error with the rest of the caucus. (Your move, Ted Cruz!) Health-care wonks like Peter Suderman have described the bill as a purported solution to ObamaCare that doesn’t solve anything but really just tinkers with the O-Care framework already in place to produce different winners and losers. Insurance expert Bob Laszewski, a longtime critic of ObamaCare, elaborates that the bill isn’t so much a policy solution as a political solution: Republicans know that there are no Democratic votes for it so they’ve thrown something together which they hoped might be able to draw enough votes from their own caucuses to get it through Congress. But it won’t work politically (the law overcompensates for how ObamaCare favored the poor at the expense of the middle class by favoring the better off) or as policy (the GOP’s “soft” mandate isn’t punitive enough to avoid adverse selection problems). And it doesn’t make enough Republicans happy to skate through the Senate given the GOP’s very narrow majority there. So what’s left?

I think it was conservative wonk Philip Klein who got to the heart of the problem for right-wing groups like Heritage. By merely fiddling with the controls of ObamaCare, writes Klein, the GOP has conceded that liberalism won the argument on health care:

Ultimately, it doesn’t do much to foster the development of a free market system. Under GOPcare, individuals would not be able to take insurance with them from job to job, because tax credits would not be available to people who have an offer of job-based insurance. They would not be able to purchase whatever plan they want, because the federal government will still be dictating what has to be in insurance policies, making insurance more expensive then it needs to be. If this bill passes, everybody would have to get their insurance either through government, their employer via tax subsidy, or be left to purchase government-designed health policies using federal subsidies…

It still rests on the premise that the federal government should play a significant role in subsidizing and regulating insurance markets in an attempt to ensure broad coverage. Thus, despite the political failures that resulted from Obamacare, the clunky legislation still moved the ball ideologically to the left. The argument isn’t over whether the government should require all insurers to cover people with pre-existing conditions. The argument is about whether the government should pay for it by forcing healthy people to purchase insurance under the threat of a penalty, as Obamacare does, or by threatening anybody who doesn’t maintain continuous coverage with a 30 percent late fee, as the GOP prefers. Liberals, in other words, have won the central philosophical argument, and Republicans are reduced to fighting over the mechanics.

Two great mysteries remain. One: How long will Trump continue to support the bill as the outcry grows on the right and left? The only hope it has of passing is if he goes all-in and demands that congressional Republicans pass it, but even that probably won’t work to scare Paul and Lee back into line in the Senate. (They were both reelected just a few months ago, remember.) All it’ll take is one more defector and Trump will have suffered a humiliating loss. That being so, how much does he really want to invest in selling this thing? And what happens if CBO comes out with a score showing that the bill would reduce coverage while increasing the deficit? That’s a steep political price for the White House to pay for backing a bill that probably can’t pass. Two: If the bill goes down, what replaces it? Conservatives want a clean repeal, but I think they’re kidding themselves. The public doesn’t like that idea; returning to the pre-ObamaCare status quo, even temporarily, may be a harder sell for the GOP than the new bill is. Another alternative is to back the Cassidy/Collins bill, which would let Democratic states keep ObamaCare if they like, but if you think Trump and Ryan are getting grief for their new plan today, imagine the grief they’d get from the right for a bill that explicitly preserves O-Care in some jurisdictions.

Update: Hoo boy. Now Tom Price is calling the bill a “work in progress”? Wasn’t supposed to be.

Tom Price calls health care bill a "work in progress" and "an important step" but won't say it's the "administration's bill"

— Manu Raju (@mkraju) March 7, 2017

Update: Here’s Rand Paul declaring the House bill DOA.

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To: SeekAndFind

No cross-state competition. That was a problem *before* ObamaCare! Cadillac tax is suspended temporarily, to come back in a few years? WTF is this a total joke?


41 posted on 03/07/2017 3:36:42 PM PST by kevao (Biblical Jesus: Give your money to the poor. Socialist Jesus: Give your neighbor's money to the poor)
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To: xzins
I’d urge support for him. I don’t know what’s up his sleeve, but to date he’s proven that something is.

Agreed. I don't see a reason to panic.

Yet.

:-)

42 posted on 03/07/2017 3:38:29 PM PST by Lakeshark (Trump. He stands for the great issues of the day. Be resolved to help!)
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To: miss marmelstein

No. Trump said Repeal.

Later on, Rinos sold Trump on Replace turd.


43 posted on 03/07/2017 3:45:55 PM PST by TheNext (RyanCare is FAKE Healthcare! VETO VETO VETO)
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To: TheNext

I don’t even understand your stupid post.


44 posted on 03/07/2017 4:02:56 PM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: AtlantaBelle
This thing is not Repeal & Replace, it's Deceit and Duplicity!
45 posted on 03/07/2017 4:12:39 PM PST by VRWCarea51 (The Original 1998 Version)
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To: SeekAndFind

It took six years to come up with this.


46 posted on 03/07/2017 4:18:14 PM PST by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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To: TheNext

In 2009 Paul Ryan said of the ACA that it MUST be scored by the CBO before mark up in order to know what it would cost, two days before markup it was scored.

Tomorrow RYNOCARE goes to Mark Up without being scored by the CBO.

Paulie Ryno, Liar of the House.


47 posted on 03/07/2017 4:19:03 PM PST by VRWCarea51 (The Original 1998 Version)
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Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (Public Law 111–148) is repealed, and the provisions of law amended or repealed by such Act are restored or revived as if such Act had not been enacted.


48 posted on 03/07/2017 4:19:30 PM PST by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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To: Ray76

Here’s the other thing — They tell us that DHS Secretary Tom Price already has a healthcare plan written.

Where is it? Let’s have a look at that.


49 posted on 03/07/2017 4:20:48 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: Praxeologue
I'm not saying we should be silent ... just that it does no good to have Trump and the GOP Congress engaging in a public battle over this.

Let's leave all political principles and partisan politics aside. What made ObamaCare such a laughable joke was that it didn't even accomplish what the people who passed it said it would accomplish ... and it's been falling apart just like everyone who opposed it said it would.

The Republicans in Congress -- and President Trump, if he is complicit as well -- will come off looking like stupid, tone-deaf morons if they pass an "ObamaCare repeal/fix" law that doesn't even fix what's wrong with ObamaCare at all.

50 posted on 03/07/2017 4:23:49 PM PST by Alberta's Child (President Donald J. Trump ... Making America Great Again, 140 Characters at a Time)
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To: SeekAndFind

What I posted in 48 is taken from Price’s plan.

https://web.archive.org/web/20161227192319/http://tomprice.house.gov/sites/tomprice.house.gov/files/HR%202300%20Empowering%20Patients%20First%20Act%202015.pdf

Ryan - good Republican that he is - couldn’t abide by that. Ryan’s mission is to fulfill the Democrat agenda, just like Republicans have for 100 years.


51 posted on 03/07/2017 4:26:08 PM PST by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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To: kevao
How could the lack of cross-state competition be a problem, when the insurance industry has operated that way since the U.S. Supreme Court ruling in Paul v. Virginia -- in 1869?
52 posted on 03/07/2017 4:27:09 PM PST by Alberta's Child (President Donald J. Trump ... Making America Great Again, 140 Characters at a Time)
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To: savedbygrace

“Yes it is and it got worse after ObamaCare went into effect.”

I don’t doubt you. I pay ca$h for medical care and couldn’t believe what these dirtbag quacks charged me. The price was 300 to 400% more than insured patients paid. I tried to sue these SOBs, and every attorney wanted a minimum $5,000-$10,000 up front to file the suit.

I found that the dirtbag hospital administrators and shyster lawyers in the community had a nice system of illegal collusion, protected by both the state and federal politicians and bureacrat fascists.

It’s all part of the “deep state” that Trump is trying to clean out. What a system, no?


53 posted on 03/07/2017 4:29:53 PM PST by sergeantdave (Cats are like potato chips - you can't have just one.)
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To: sergeantdave

It’s a price fixing cartel.


54 posted on 03/07/2017 4:31:40 PM PST by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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To: miss marmelstein

Yes I will lurk on Twitter...thanks
Besides the state boundries it will end funds to planned parenthood.Which as a pro-lifer I appreciate.
IF you are a Treeper ( Conservative Tree House) as well as a Freeper...Sundance gives a good analysis how this plan could unfold thru the morrass of legal mumbo jumbo!
Freegards
LEX


55 posted on 03/07/2017 4:32:16 PM PST by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: Ray76

“It’s a price fixing cartel.”

Cartel is the right word. Thank you, Ray76. And President Trump and his army needs to crush that cartel.


56 posted on 03/07/2017 4:42:26 PM PST by sergeantdave (Cats are like potato chips - you can't have just one.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Trump should veto.


57 posted on 03/07/2017 5:16:03 PM PST by Joe Bfstplk (A Irredeemable Deplorable Texan)
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To: JayGalt

And not just here on FR.


58 posted on 03/07/2017 5:21:43 PM PST by Luircin (Dancing in the streets! Time to DRAIN THE SWAMP!)
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To: SeekAndFind

If “Allahpundit”is a SECRET then why are we giving any credibility regarding it’s “writings”?

I believe Trump will keep his promise to REPEAL and REPLACE!

I also believe the day will come when vassal McConnell will YIELD to Alpha Male Trump.


59 posted on 03/07/2017 6:34:28 PM PST by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid)
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To: Cen-Tejas

RE: I believe Trump will keep his promise to REPEAL and REPLACE!

I also believe he will do it. Heck, I’ve always believed that the GOP Congress will repeal and replaces Obamacare.

The only question is will the “REPLACE” part satisfy conservatives and meet the goals of :

1) Making healthcare affordable

2) Not lead the country to more debt and on the road to bankruptcy.

3) Minimize the role of government in the process.


60 posted on 03/07/2017 8:12:08 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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