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Abandon ship: Conservative groups and think tanks turn on House GOP’s ObamaCare bill
Hotair ^ | 03/07/2017 | AllahPundit

Posted on 03/07/2017 1:57:03 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

I am so sick and tired of these one-hundred percenters. The truth is they don’t want to change a damn thing because they have personally found ways around the problems. They are part of the elite, and they are a big part of our problem. These critics know damn good and well how the legislative process works. The bill will be amended numerous times, it will be marked up in committee, and finalized in a conference committee. All these Rino mouthpieces know this not the final product that was produced today. They simply want to scuttle the whole thing before it gets off the ground. It would not matter what the bill had in it today because these critics are more comfortable complaining than leading. I hope President Trump tells them all to go to hell, and finds a way to force through the best bill we can get.


61 posted on 03/07/2017 8:27:23 PM PST by Jay Redhawk (Diversity for the sake of diversity is just flat out stupidity.)
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To: SeekAndFind

62 posted on 03/07/2017 11:42:56 PM PST by vikingrinn
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To: SeekAndFind

Appears to me to be a piece of RINO trash that needs to go to the dumpster.


63 posted on 03/08/2017 1:01:35 AM PST by Susan360
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To: sergeantdave

I had to go to the ER a few weeks ago, and I fully expect to get a bill for $1,100 to $1,300 for that.

What I didn’t expect was getting a separate bill from the Emergency Room doctor.

I’ve had to go to the ER 4 times in the past 7 years, and this is the first time I’ve gotten a separate bill from the ER doctor.

BTW, I have company provided insurance, but the deductible is high, so I get bills for this type of medical care.


64 posted on 03/08/2017 4:14:33 AM PST by savedbygrace
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To: xzins

Phase 1 - give me all of your money, your house, your 401k, and your cars.

I PROMISE in phase 2 and 3 I will give them back.

Except phase 1 takes 51 votes but phase 2 and 3 takes 60 votes.

Do you see what is wrong with this picture? Dont accept garbage for phase 1 on an empty promise of of phase 2. Phase 1 needs to be substantially right. The negotiating needs to be done now. What is the hurrybthat they have to pass a trainwreck now and later PROMISE to make it a roae garden. Negotiate and fix it now, before voting.


65 posted on 03/08/2017 7:27:38 AM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (The GOP will see the light, because Trump will make them feel the heat.it is hugh and series)
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To: Jay Redhawk

Why must the bill be passed to amend it? Amend it first, so the final product is known and voted on, not a work in progress. Rinocare is horrible.


66 posted on 03/08/2017 7:37:44 AM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (The GOP will see the light, because Trump will make them feel the heat.it is hugh and series)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

I have a huge problem with the repeal conservatives. They want a 2 to 3 year delay before the repeal takes effect. I heard 2 years again on TV yesterday. This is a January article from hot air.
http://hotair.com/archives/2016/12/06/house-freedom-caucus-might-block-three-year-repeal-and-delay-plan-for-obamacare/

**[D]uring a retreat in Virginia’s Blue Ridge Mountains over the weekend, Freedom Caucus members fumed at [the three-year] idea. Most said they wouldn’t settle for anything longer than a two-year replacement process, the time frame both chambers approved last year in an Affordable Care Act repeal bill that President Barack Obama vetoed.***

It is simple for me. Any repeal that is delayed or is only partially complete and kept on hold for 2 years means everything will be put at risk in another election in 2018. People could be so frustrated at continuing with ObamaCare or partial ObamaCare that we’ll lose house or senate. Then we’ll never get rid of it. I clearly understood on TV last night that they would pass the repeal legislation but that it would INCLUDE a 2 year delay. IOW, you have ObamaCare for 2 more years.

Trump and Price are saying do all we can now and then do more in 2 more phases.

Trump has been right all along great. I’m trusting him and not the 2 year repeal people.


67 posted on 03/08/2017 7:51:21 AM PST by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory.)
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To: JimSEA

“Protecting the insurance industry, as now entrenched, from interstate competition is a nonstarter for me.”

Why they can’t come up with some flowery legalese so it fits in budget bill?

I trust Trump. But these snakes with their 2 or 3 part “process” crap...it’s how Regan got swindled on immigration.


68 posted on 03/08/2017 8:35:57 AM PST by moehoward
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To: xzins

A partial fix means repeal will NEVER happen. How hard is that to understand? They are never going to modify Obamacare and then close the loop with, “the ACA is hereby fully repealed”. That will never happen, and God knows what the RINOs will leave in from the original abomination.

The only solution is to write a whole new health car bill in its entirety with a clause saying passage of this bill includes full repeal of ACA.

They ate being politicians, not problem solvers. They are pterrified to own it. They are big pussies, Paul Rino and the rest of the establishment pussies.


69 posted on 03/08/2017 9:47:53 AM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (The GOP will see the light, because Trump will make them feel the heat.it is hugh and series)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

The bill will be amended before it is passed. Both the House and the Senate will have their version of the bill, which must then be formed into one single version, and then again approved by both houses. If Ryan and McConnel don’t interfere there should be plenty of opportunity to change this bill. In theory it could be completely different than the way it is now.


70 posted on 03/08/2017 3:26:33 PM PST by Jay Redhawk (Diversity for the sake of diversity is just flat out stupidity.)
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To: SeekAndFind

good points, thanks for responding!


71 posted on 03/08/2017 6:39:56 PM PST by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid)
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To: MNJohnnie
>>>Surpise! The Never Trumpers are back!

Well...if they are against this abomination I say "welcome back!" This is a terrible piece of legislation and the only people who support it are inside the beltway...and who have a death wish.

72 posted on 03/08/2017 6:50:42 PM PST by NELSON111
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