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Abandon ship: Conservative groups and think tanks turn on House GOP’s ObamaCare bill
Hotair ^ | 03/07/2017 | AllahPundit

Posted on 03/07/2017 1:57:03 PM PST by SeekAndFind

Heritage Action and the Club for Growth and Americans for Prosperity and FreedomWorks are all thumbs down? Who said conservatives don’t stand up to Trump anymore?

Here’s the statement from Heritage, which Matt Welch describes as the “in-house think tank for the Trump administration.”

“In many ways, the House Republican proposal released last night not only accepts the flawed progressive premises of Obamacare but expands upon them. Ronald Reagan once said, ‘Government’s view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.’ The AHCA does all three.

“Many Americans seeking health insurance on the individual market will notice no significant difference between the Affordable Care Act (i.e., Obamacare) and the American Health Care Act. That is bad politics and, more importantly, bad policy.

“Rather than accept the flawed premises of Obamacare, congressional Republicans should fully repeal the failed law and begin a genuine effort to deliver on longstanding campaign promises that create a free market health care system that empowers patients and doctors.”

I don’t believe I’ve seen one major Republican player outside the congressional leadership say they support the House GOP bill this morning — with one very important exception, and even he’s sufficiently nervous to have framed the bill as a mere starting point for “negotiation”:

Our wonderful new Healthcare Bill is now out for review and negotiation. ObamaCare is a complete and total disaster – is imploding fast!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 7, 2017

The whole point of this rollout, though, is that there’s not going to be negotiation. McConnell made that plain this morning in saying that they’re going to vote ASAP. The bill wouldn’t survive a free-for-all in which the disparate centrist and conservative factions within the GOP are suddenly making demands for amendments. The only way this has a chance of getting passed is via a gut check, with McConnell and Ryan practically daring the critics in their caucuses to vote no and kill the GOP’s first, and maybe best, chance at repeal. That’s why the statements from Heritage et al. are so important: Activist groups are showing wary Republicans in Congress that they’ll have some grassroots support if they defy Trump and the congressional leadership by voting this thing down. It’s the first major rebellion on the right against the administration since Trump was sworn in. And it makes his reaction important. If conservatives end up muscling him into turning against the House plan, it’ll be taken as evidence that they can do it on other policies if they act in concert.

In fact, Trump’s already signaling that revisions, in the form of another “phase” of the process, might be in the offing:

Don't worry, getting rid of state lines, which will promote competition, will be in phase 2 & 3 of healthcare rollout. @foxandfriends

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 7, 2017

You can’t get to phase two unless phase one passes the House and Senate, and right now it sure looks as though the votes aren’t there. Rand Paul has already pronounced the bill “dead on arrival” and it’s hard to disagree given the volume of attacks. How do Trump and Ryan turn the momentum around amid an avalanche of criticism from both the left and right? At a minimum, Paul and Mike Lee sound like firm “no” votes in the Senate, leaving McConnell with no margin for error with the rest of the caucus. (Your move, Ted Cruz!) Health-care wonks like Peter Suderman have described the bill as a purported solution to ObamaCare that doesn’t solve anything but really just tinkers with the O-Care framework already in place to produce different winners and losers. Insurance expert Bob Laszewski, a longtime critic of ObamaCare, elaborates that the bill isn’t so much a policy solution as a political solution: Republicans know that there are no Democratic votes for it so they’ve thrown something together which they hoped might be able to draw enough votes from their own caucuses to get it through Congress. But it won’t work politically (the law overcompensates for how ObamaCare favored the poor at the expense of the middle class by favoring the better off) or as policy (the GOP’s “soft” mandate isn’t punitive enough to avoid adverse selection problems). And it doesn’t make enough Republicans happy to skate through the Senate given the GOP’s very narrow majority there. So what’s left?

I think it was conservative wonk Philip Klein who got to the heart of the problem for right-wing groups like Heritage. By merely fiddling with the controls of ObamaCare, writes Klein, the GOP has conceded that liberalism won the argument on health care:

Ultimately, it doesn’t do much to foster the development of a free market system. Under GOPcare, individuals would not be able to take insurance with them from job to job, because tax credits would not be available to people who have an offer of job-based insurance. They would not be able to purchase whatever plan they want, because the federal government will still be dictating what has to be in insurance policies, making insurance more expensive then it needs to be. If this bill passes, everybody would have to get their insurance either through government, their employer via tax subsidy, or be left to purchase government-designed health policies using federal subsidies…

It still rests on the premise that the federal government should play a significant role in subsidizing and regulating insurance markets in an attempt to ensure broad coverage. Thus, despite the political failures that resulted from Obamacare, the clunky legislation still moved the ball ideologically to the left. The argument isn’t over whether the government should require all insurers to cover people with pre-existing conditions. The argument is about whether the government should pay for it by forcing healthy people to purchase insurance under the threat of a penalty, as Obamacare does, or by threatening anybody who doesn’t maintain continuous coverage with a 30 percent late fee, as the GOP prefers. Liberals, in other words, have won the central philosophical argument, and Republicans are reduced to fighting over the mechanics.

Two great mysteries remain. One: How long will Trump continue to support the bill as the outcry grows on the right and left? The only hope it has of passing is if he goes all-in and demands that congressional Republicans pass it, but even that probably won’t work to scare Paul and Lee back into line in the Senate. (They were both reelected just a few months ago, remember.) All it’ll take is one more defector and Trump will have suffered a humiliating loss. That being so, how much does he really want to invest in selling this thing? And what happens if CBO comes out with a score showing that the bill would reduce coverage while increasing the deficit? That’s a steep political price for the White House to pay for backing a bill that probably can’t pass. Two: If the bill goes down, what replaces it? Conservatives want a clean repeal, but I think they’re kidding themselves. The public doesn’t like that idea; returning to the pre-ObamaCare status quo, even temporarily, may be a harder sell for the GOP than the new bill is. Another alternative is to back the Cassidy/Collins bill, which would let Democratic states keep ObamaCare if they like, but if you think Trump and Ryan are getting grief for their new plan today, imagine the grief they’d get from the right for a bill that explicitly preserves O-Care in some jurisdictions.

Update: Hoo boy. Now Tom Price is calling the bill a “work in progress”? Wasn’t supposed to be.

Tom Price calls health care bill a "work in progress" and "an important step" but won't say it's the "administration's bill"

— Manu Raju (@mkraju) March 7, 2017

Update: Here’s Rand Paul declaring the House bill DOA.

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KEYWORDS: congress; conservatives; gop; gopecare; obamacare
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To: stockpirate

Just lurching from one shipwreck to another....

Getting your health needs paid for by somebody else is NOT a legitimate form of entitlement. Everybody, at some level or another, is ultimately responsible for their OWN state of health, whether by their personal actions, or if they place reliance in another to look after their basic needs.

In the hierarchy of needs, having a cell phone ranks WAY above looking after your own basic physiological state of well-being. Or so it would seem.

Goddam snowflakes.


21 posted on 03/07/2017 2:39:31 PM PST by alloysteel (John Galt has chosen to take the job. This time, Atlas did NOT shrug.)
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To: SeekAndFind

If you take a turd from your left hand and put it the right hand you still have a turd and and then your nose starts to itch.


22 posted on 03/07/2017 2:49:22 PM PST by Organic Panic (Flinging poo is not a valid argument)
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To: SeekAndFind
I only hope President Trump will reread the bill and see that it does not repeal Obamacare. We voters said REPEAL OBAMACARE. That means now and totally. I am not sure all the crap King Obama put on the bill during it's life, and quite maybe it will take a bill to reverse it. That is my only unanswered question, will repeal the bill catch all the shi! tacked on over the years.
23 posted on 03/07/2017 2:50:47 PM PST by Logical me
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To: SeekAndFind; P-Marlowe; Jim Robinson; Lakeshark

I would not have written this bill this way. However,the president has called it phase 1 of 3 phases. I voted for him so I’m going to go along for a while.

Why?

I just watched him do a Br’er Rabbit and totally undo his Russia collusion opponents. They are rushing to disclaim all their past claims. He truly does play chess while they play checkers.

So, what I see is planned stages of negotiations. He gets them on board for stage 1, gets it passed, and then out of the blue he knows something will happen to force stage 2.

I’d urge support for him. I don’t know what’s up his sleeve, but to date he’s proven that something is.


24 posted on 03/07/2017 2:53:19 PM PST by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory.)
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To: stockpirate

This is a phony bill. the plan is to not pass anything else for the next 2-3 years.

I hope it gets defeated.

Repeal means repeal, not modify and keep.

Anyone who votes for this bill needs to be defeated.


Yep. Designed to fail so they don’t have to do anything. Exactly like the fake repeal votes during the years the kenyan occupied the White Hut.


25 posted on 03/07/2017 2:55:51 PM PST by lodi90
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To: Alberta's Child
I agree.

Lets see what the final product is.

26 posted on 03/07/2017 2:59:21 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Alberta's Child

See #24


27 posted on 03/07/2017 3:03:33 PM PST by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory.)
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To: SeekAndFind

== REPEAL AND REPLACE SCAM ==

aka RyanCare & RepublicanCare

A bait & switch con, ‘And’ logic, that turns good into bad, by Republican sneeks.

Subtract bad. (GOOD)
Subtract bad AND Add bad! (BAD)

Repeal the bad. (GOOD)
Repeal the bad AND Replace with bad! (BAD)

Remove the wart. (GOOD)
Remove the wart AND Replace with ugly scars! (BAD)

Remove your tumor. (GOOD)
Remove your tumor AND Replace with cancer. (BAD)

Repeal awful ObamaCare. (GOOD)
Repeal awful ObamaCare AND Replace with awful RyanCare. (BAD)

— Feel like a foolish sucker now, don’t you?? ;-)


28 posted on 03/07/2017 3:07:22 PM PST by TheNext (RyanCare is FAKE Healthcare! VETO VETO VETO)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is all machination for Single Payer. That is the only thing the Republicans will allow in the long run. How do we expect anything from Congress that is populated by officially two Socialist Parties? The Republic is over. We have to now make sure that the Dictator is powerful and from our own tribe.


29 posted on 03/07/2017 3:07:25 PM PST by arthurus (.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Well it’s cute to hear the “I have a letterhead and a website so I’m important” brigade yell and pitch a fit, but this is the time where they need to show that they have some real pull and start a real lobbying effort.
I dont want to hear a bunch of NeverTrump BS, because those people have no credibility, and have been sitting on their butts since before the election

They need to show that they can influence legislation in the congress so we can get what we really want out of there.

“Stand up to Trump”? Pffffffffft! These clowns couldn’t stand up to anything the past 8 years, so they can spare us the tough guy virtue signalling act and try to help stand up to Ryan and the GOPe, whom they seemed to have no ability to do anything about the past 8 years.


30 posted on 03/07/2017 3:16:47 PM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: arthurus

“The Republic is over. We have to now make sure that the Dictator is powerful and from our own tribe.”

Well let it be known that the dramatic kooks are not limited to the left side of the aisle...


31 posted on 03/07/2017 3:18:13 PM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: Luircin

Exactly. I get tired of being told trust in the force.
Trump wanted us to be engaged so I think its fair to say what we think.
Show me how this is good because to me its a whole lot of BIG Government waiting to go wrong.


32 posted on 03/07/2017 3:19:04 PM PST by JayGalt
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To: lexington minuteman 1775

Sign up on Twitter - you don’t have to post, you can simply lurk. The President continually updates. He’s promising to erase state borders on health insurance which will certainly increase competition and may lower prices.


33 posted on 03/07/2017 3:23:15 PM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: TBP

Remember.. this is Hotair, the NeverTrump RINO crowd, along with National Review and Conservative Review and Red State.

Of course they and this writer were in the tank for Croooze and when Trump handed them their heads, they support the next biggest pain in the azz— Paul Ryan- who thwarts all thing s Trump.

This plan is Paul Ryan’s plan. Hotair loves it, but the conservatives hated it and told him so. Ryan put the damn thing up anyway.

Now HotAir warns to abandon ship, Doomsday will come.


34 posted on 03/07/2017 3:23:51 PM PST by RitaOK (Viva Christo Rey! Public Education/Academia are the farm team for more Marxists coming... infinitum.)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is capitulation.


35 posted on 03/07/2017 3:25:37 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: SeekAndFind

Pass a law to require all the thieving hospital administrators and quacks to publish the cost of all medical procedures down to the penny.

Healthcare is the only profession where the doctors and hospitals expect you to sign a blank check, hand it to them and they’ll fill in the amount later.

That’s certainly not free enterprise; it’s piracy.


36 posted on 03/07/2017 3:27:13 PM PST by sergeantdave (Cats are like potato chips - you can't have just one.)
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To: alloysteel
Getting your health needs paid for by somebody else is NOT a legitimate form of entitlement. Everybody, at some level or another, is ultimately responsible for their OWN state of health, whether by their personal actions, or if they place reliance in another to look after their basic needs.

THANK YOU.

37 posted on 03/07/2017 3:28:15 PM PST by TADSLOS (Reset Underway!)
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To: sergeantdave

Yes it is and it got worse after ObamaCare went into effect.


38 posted on 03/07/2017 3:28:18 PM PST by savedbygrace
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To: Alberta's Child
This is a case where economic reality is clashing with political feasibility, and they all need to work something out behind closed doors instead of carrying on a dispute in public.

It's too late to remain silent. Ryan has proposed and Trump has accepted. It is time to speak up. Trump only backtracked today because of the strong reaction from we conservatives. Keep it up. Speak now or forever hold our peace.

39 posted on 03/07/2017 3:32:58 PM PST by Praxeologue
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m waiting for more info. I don’t trust Paul Ryan. I do trust President Trump to do what’s right. And I sure as h*ll don’t trust Never Trumpers.


40 posted on 03/07/2017 3:35:15 PM PST by McGruff (#PlugTheLeaks)
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