"But I ran the spell-check!"
Posted on 02/28/2017 1:34:51 PM PST by SeekAndFind
It’s only been a few weeks since former President Barack Obama left the White House, but presidential historians have already placed him on the right side of history.
AC-SPAN survey of 91 historians and presidential experts ranked the Democrat the 12th best leader in United States presidential history — just ahead of James Monroe and right behind Woodrow Wilson.
Another Illinois politician, former President Abraham Lincoln, claimed the survey’s top spot. He’s followed closely by George Washington, with Franklin D. Roosevelt rounding out the top three.
Experts who participated in the survey were asked to grade the presidents on 10 different facets of their terms in office, like “Crisis Leadership” and “International Relations.”
Obama earned high marks for his pursuit of “Equal Justice for All,” ranking third in the category behind Lincoln and former President Lyndon B. Johnson. He also cracked the top 10 for his “Moral Authority” and “Economic Management,” ranking seventh and eighth, respectively.
The 44th president’s lowest mark is for his relationship with Congress. Historians ranked him 39th, ahead of only a few others including former presidents Franklin Pierce and Andrew Johnson, who was ranked last.
Experts said the passing of time will likely effect Obama’s rankings in the future and remained mixed on whether the former President’s marks were higher or lower than expected,
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How high on the “I’m a lunatic” scale do these historians rate?
If he was white, he’d be 45th.
Thanks for the laughs.
Is this for real?
It’s like the psychology test of line lengths.
Professors would set up a classroom, with predetermined liars who promised to go along with the obvious fraud.
They would then draw 2 lines on a board and label them “A” and “B” or “1” and “2”. One line was obviously slightly longer than the other one.
There would then be an announcement by the leader that the shortest line was indeed the longest. A few folks would hold out, but beaten down by the crowd, most would eventually “confess” that the shorter line was indeed longest.
IOW, it’s somewhat proven that a lie, an obvious lie, can be promulgated as “truth” because a majority of people have a hard time standing up against constant liars.
This, IMHO, is what we’ve witnessed to an alarming degree between the years 2008-2016 (and even now). Add in the “crowd mentality” and you have huge swaths of people who will continue to propagate astounding lies; even to the destruction of their own nation.
Folks have a hard time wrapping their minds around this. I have worked with persistent pathological liars (not everyone there was) in what used to be known as “Big 6” (back then). I even had one guy trying to convince ME that I wrote the study HE wrote. People wonder how Enron happened; I know exactly how things like Enron can happen. Such a machine is pretty hard to fight. One guy who was high up wasn’t going to go along with the fraud. A call was made to the Chicago office and he was replaced with “the right man for the job”.
I stood in his face and told him what a freaking liar he was and demanded to know who put him up to such idiocy. He remained silent. I’m sure he’s prospering much better than I am these days. Oh well.....
I agree 100%.
I rate him as one of the worst presidents of all time but I have taken a lot of flak over that.
Almost everyone who doesn't think for himself believes Lincoln walked on water.
Lincoln presided over a war that left 600,000 dead and 400,000 wounded over a period of 4 years.
He did almost nothing to avoid the conflict or bring it to an early end.
He was a politician first and formost and usually made the choices that benefited him politically.
And he left the nation divided in ways that persist even today, over 150 years later.
That casualty rate was about 3% of the population at the time. when the population was less than 1/10 of the population today.
A war today with that rate of casualties would result in over 6 million dead and 4 million wounded.
Think how crazy people went over Vietnam with less than 60,000 US casualties.
How would they handle 10 million killed and wounded?
Perhaps even better than that, if you count him as tied for 11th+12th place with Bimbo Bill aka The Stainmaster.
Or tied for 10th+11th+12th place w/ Beelzebubba and The Malaised Peanut Farmer.
But beyond that, people generally rate more recent presidents higher than the earlier ones they may only have heard of in school. That goes for historians as well as ordinary people.
Some of the most significant and influential presidents of the past have been downgraded because they are now regarded as racist or expansionist or war-mongering. Polk and Jackson undoubtedly left more of a mark on the country than Obama or Clinton or the Bushes, but it's become difficult to say that nowadays.
And of course the job has gotten harder with time. A below average 20th or 21st century president has to have skills greater than an average 19th century president just to survive in office.
That's changed a bit recently, though. If your country's the world's one remaining superpower and you've got the world's most powerful army and most innovative economy, there's a limit to how much damage you can do it as president.
So it's fair to ask if recent presidents like Clinton or Obama were really better than Cleveland or McKinley, who had to deal with real challenges in their own time and managed to cope with their difficulties with lesser resources than today's presidents have.
I suspect that this poll was designed to make Obama come out looking good. Intangibles like "Public Persuasion," "Moral Authority," "Vision/Setting an Agenda," are weighed equally with "Economic Management," "Crisis Leadership," "International Relations," "Administrative Skills," and "Relations with Congress."
Obama scores higher on the abstract vision and persuasion stuff than he does on actually getting things done. "Pursued Equal Justice for All" is thrown in as a gift: they aren't going to give the first Black president a bad mark for that, even if it's not a 100% accurate assessment of his administration.
Any list that starts with him is using middle school history as their guide so if Obama is 12, then everyone 13 and lower on the list is probably just a faceless name to them and they were ranked randomly.
So if he let the country fall apart and the slavers take all the federal property they could, he'd have been a better president?
And neo-Confederate revisionism isn't usually on a "middle school" level?
What complete B.S.
[ Of course, political bias is involved. How could somebody seriously expect Obama to be in the top 10 or top 12 of all presidents? ]
Given that 4 of them in the past few decades have served 8 years each, (12 x 4 = 48) + (4 x 4 = 16) = 64 years of adult voter experience.
Guess the average age of respondents must be at least 82 if we went with 18 years + 64.
I’m only including the double terms of Reagan, Clinton, W and Ovomit. This, like every liberal lie, shows how superficial all this nonsense is. Which is perfect to sell to the Beyonce/DNC/liberal/SJW low-IQ crowd. No doubt it is being passed on via Twitter and FakeBook as we type.
What are these clowns smoking?
When Obama assumed office the national debt was about $9.6 trillion. When he left office eight years later it was $20 trillion.
Obama increased the national debt by over $10 trillion.
He accrued more debt in his two terms in office than all of his 43 presidential predecessors combined.
>>So if he let the country fall apart and the slavers take all the federal property they could, he’d have been a better president?
So, in your mind, there are only the two alternatives? Nothing in the middle? No compromise? If those are the only two choices, then he should have given up the “federal property” that was located INSIDE the states. Prior to Lincoln, people thought of our nation as “these United States”. After Lincoln, it was “the United States”. He destroyed the nation founded as a republic of sovereign states in favor of the federal behemoth we now have that makes all states, counties, and citizens subservient.
Throw that survey in the garbage....Obama is in last place of all 44 p_residents to date. Can’t fool me!
Polls/Surveys proved themselves in the 2016 election.
Liberal moonbat historians.....
Historians must have been drunk.
laughable.
FDR last.
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